skuv
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Re: BS
Sounds like you're assuming that there is some kind of interaction required to validate the game when you go online.
I would assume the opposite, that when you sign in online, it reads your CD key, and verifies you without you having to do anything. So if you're going online ANYWAY, what would be the problem there? That is a far cry from being required to be online because you don't know when the 10 days is going to hit, and you'll no longer be able to play the game.
Also, this allows you to play the game completely offline, which the original DRM scenario did not, because of the 10 day validation.
I should also mention that your post says BioWare specifically, and they make Mass Effect, which has no online play, you'd only be going online for patches and downloadable content. So what are you worried about there? Are YOU even worried or are you just trying to make this look worse than it is by being sensational?
I never install a game on more than 2 computers myself, and I can certainly see that someone would install on more than 3. But you've got to be realistic and know that you and people that visit DSLR are NOT the norm. EA sadly isn't going to miss the few people that won't be this because they can't install it on 4+ computers simultaneously.
Everyone would have been affected by the 10-day requirement, but now a small percentage of people with access to 4+ computers they want to install the game on are going to be affected. EA certainly knew if they affected EVERYONE that they were going to have significant issues.
I would say that is a huge step in the right direction and not simply a weak trade off as you suggest. |
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tad2020
join:2007-07-17
Orange, CA
 ·AT&T DSL Service
| said by skuv :
I never install a game on more than 2 computers myself, and I can certainly see that someone would install on more than 3. But you've got to be realistic and know that you and people that visit DSLR are NOT the norm. EA sadly isn't going to miss the few people that won't be this because they can't install it on 4+ computers simultaneously. Does this proposed system limit its self to 3 simultaneous installations or 3 installations activations? The later is what I understood it to be, which could be troubling to anyone that plays a game several times over a couple of year period. |
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Karl Bode
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May 12th, @05:10PM
| reply to skuv
quote:
Also, this allows you to play the game completely offline, which the original DRM scenario did not, because of the 10 day validation.
My understanding is the DRM still requires online activation to play the game. Can you, anonymous defender of EA, show me where this is not the case? quote:
Are YOU even worried or are you just trying to make this look worse than it is by being sensational?
These solutions annoy more legit customers than pirates, and this one comes with a 3 PC limit, requires a connection for the first time ever, and comes from a company with a bad reputation (Securom). No, I'm not being sensational, I'm asking legitimate questions while everyone else is giving EA PR the benefit of the doubt for what seems to me like a very minor change in the overall DRM structure. quote:
I never install a game on more than 2 computers myself, and I can certainly see that someone would install on more than 3. But you've got to be realistic and know that you and people that visit DSLR are NOT the norm.
What if you install it on two PC builds and a laptop, then sell it? Is that "the norm"? What if you keep the game for five years and by the time you're ready to play it, the activation server no longer exists because EA has dropped out of the PC gaming business to do consoles exclusively? Still not the norm? |
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skuv
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| said by Karl Bode  : Can you, anonymous defender of EA, show me where this is not the case? I'm far from an EA defender, so don't put words in my mouth, please. I hate EA for many reasons.
But I am being objective here, because they did take a huge step back with this DRM scheme.
However you must really hate them because you just cannot look at it objectively. |
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rahvin112
join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
| DRM that focuses on control is BAD, almost all DRM is bad by design. It doesn't stop piracy and all it does is annoy users. Since when does the publisher get to say that you can only install a game 3 times before you have to buy a new copy?
I'm fine with a DRM scheme like Steam where I am not limited and actually have far greater freedom with authorized use (including them keeping a backup copy for redownload) at the expense of authenticating online to initiate play along with offline mode.
I'm NOT ok with DRM that automatically assumes I'm a criminal and limits my use of the software to try to prevent unauthorized use which it won't prevent. |
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Mizzat
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join:2003-05-03
Atlanta, GA
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| said by rahvin112 :. Since when does the publisher get to say that you can only install a game 3 times before you have to buy a new copy? You don't have to buy another copy, just call them to activate a new install. Just like you have to do with Windows, Scansoft, etc, etc.... |
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