ltsnow
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Valdosta, GA
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Re: [XP Pro] Updates Fail after Fresh Install and XP SP3 Loaded
Bill, maybe I'm dense, but how come I have the 3.0 updater when I do a clean install of XP Pro SP3--no slipstream? I never use the automatic updates, only the manual updates. They all install fine. |
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bcastner
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Chevy Chase, MD
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It is nice to have friends.
Best,
Bill |
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jferello
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Hatboro, PA
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My god your amazing, your like an MS God!! I am adding you to my friends list, if that is ok with you.
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bcastner
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Yes, roughly.
It is that neither SP2 nor SP3 includes the updated Windows Update Agent.
Therefore if you do a clean install with an XP SP2 image you begin without the newer Update Agent. Since SP3 does not contain this either, at the end of the process you are still without the newer Update Agent.
Now Windows Update cannot work for on-demand access to obtain Hotfixes without the newer Update Agent installed. Hence, because of this "Catch-22", it led to reasoning by Microsoft to push this update to all with Automatic Windows Update enabled silently. Since they could use the Automatic Update mechanism of a client-server link with BITS, the update could be pushed out to clients without involving the Update Agent, only the Automatic Update service.
So with a specific fact case you can end up, as was the case here, without the newer Update Client, and no way to update this using Windows Update. The only choice is to wait and see if it gets pushed to you through Automatic Updates; or resolve the issue by downloading the newer Update Agent and installing it yourself.
Best wishes,
Bill Castner.
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jferello
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bcastner,
So the problem is that the Windows Update agent neededs to be updated, but because we did SP3 first instead of the WUA then the WUA got all confused and couldn't update itself then?
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bcastner
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Thank you for the report.
If a Search for wup2.dll returns nothing, then do not be concerned. wups2 is an update client proxy stub that 'marks' the location of updates from either Automatic Upates or Windows Updates; and when it's not registered (if present), the system can not install them because it can't find them. |
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