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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/269961"><b>astirusty</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Steve <A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Been out there for 2.5 months! Wow!</div>I know the infection via Vietnamese language pack add-on doesn't effect the vast majority of us, but it is still good you brought it.  In that it is a wake-up call (or reminder) of the various methods of injecting malware into application that in itself was being protected by scanning/monitoring.<br><small>--<br>Do yourself a favor, just say no to anything Windows.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/269961"><b>astirusty</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Blackbird <A HREF="/useremail/u/1140294"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> the following comments also appear in the &raquo;<small>https</small>://<A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432406">bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432406</A> dialogue...</div>Thanks for posting the dialogue, it appears there was a slip-up with FF add-ons and there are plans to reduce the chances of it happening again.<br><small>--<br>Do yourself a favor, just say no to anything Windows.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 12:27:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/723836"><b>Davebo_</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  matunga <A HREF="/useremail/u/847301"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>yet another demonstration that open source code is NOT safer than closed source code  :)<br><br> </div>Well, only you were making this assumption. I think your post tells us more about you and your skillset, such as it is. Only you make that claim (or counter-claim). You're a one man war...<br><br>Having fun down there under the bridge?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 12:09:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1157186"><b>quatrix</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  matunga <A HREF="/useremail/u/847301"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>yet another demonstration that open source code is NOT safer than closed source code</div>Your logic needs some work.  It's only a demonstration that open-source code isn't 100% safe, which was obvious.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 10:55:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1140294"><b>Blackbird</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Steve <A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Yes, I know all that - this was lucky that the infected code couldn't propogate because XPI allows executable code. And they had no kind of re-scanning every time they get A/V updates to have caught this some time ago - they are now doing so, but I don't know how this fails to undermine trust in the distribution mechanism.<br> </div>What you state is true, but to keep this in context and to better understand why things may have unfolded as they did, the following comments also appear in the &raquo;<small>https</small>://<A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432406">bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432406</A> dialogue...<br><blockquote>Dave Miller (MoCo)  2008-05-06 10:49:42 PDT <br>(In reply to comment #12)<br>> I thought we were scanning all the uploads -- did it slip by before the virus<br>> definitions were updated to include HTML.Xorer?<br><br>Yes, that was explained in comment 5.<br><br>> Maybe we need to rescan after every definition update?<br><br>Ideally, yes, except that <b>we get new definitions on average every 6 hours or so<br>and it takes over a week to virus scan the entire ftp server.</b>  Getting monthly<br>scans is in the plan for the new stage server once we get it working. <i>(bb: my emphasis added)</i></blockquote><br><br>This is later followed by the following exchange:<br><blockquote>Mike Shaver  2008-05-06 11:13:52 PDT <br>Can we just rescan using the newly added definitions (if that makes things<br>faster), or just scan add-ons to make it go faster?  I think the risk level is<br>a fair bit higher for uploaded add-ons and the contrib directories than for the<br>builds pushed out by our tinderboxes, so it'd be good to improve the frequency<br>on the softer targets if we can.<br>Comment #22 <br>Dave Miller (MoCo)  2008-05-06 12:20:59 PDT <br>I rescanned the addons tree last night, it took a few hours to run.  Don't know<br>how many, it had been going for an hour or two when I went to sleep and it was<br>done when I woke up.  Getting a full scan of addons daily would probably be<br>doable.</blockquote><br><small>--<br>If God wanted us to work with electrons, He'd make them big enough to see...</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1215698"><b>mikenolan7</b></A> : Coming down hard on Mozilla, and stating this shows some inherent weakness in open source software is not fair.  They made a mistake, they are taking steps to fix it.  Open source software is the most amazing gift in this world.  To the detractors please point to anywhere else where you can get something of such value for free.  Where would the internet be without Firefox, Opera, all the Linux distros, FreeBSD and OpenBSD?  People interested in security should be especially grateful.  As a home user what else can we ask for, with Wireshark, Snort, Nmap and the others to secure our networks with and learn from, entirely free of charge?  It's the most generous thing I see in a world full of greed.<br><br>Edit: Steve, this was not directed at you, but to some of the more negative posts.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  jdong <A HREF="/useremail/u/655964"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>    :</small><br><br>It is a disappointment to see the distribution infrastructure for any software project, open or closed source, to be compromised in this manner , but I don't think this is a problem isolated to Mozilla -- I'd like to know how many other vendors have active countermeasures and preventative measures for this kind of compromise.<br><br>On the bright side, I am glad to see Mozilla is instituting policy/procedure changes in reaction to this breach.<br></div>Agreed. Mozilla resolved the issue quickly upon discovery, without denial, and  publicly for everyone to view.<br><br>Mozilla needs to take more responsibility and ownership for extension quality/security. Their current extension 'disclaimer' states:<br><blockquote>&raquo;<small>https</small>://<A HREF="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/">addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/</A><br><i>Mozilla is providing links to these applications as a courtesy, and makes no representations regarding the applications or any information related there to. Any questions, complaints or claims regarding the applications must be directed to the appropriate software vendor.</i></blockquote><br>That isn't quite going to cut it anymore.<br>Mozilla now better understands that they must provide a higher level of end user assurance. Well, let's hope so anyway.<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  KrK <A HREF="/useremail/u/129458"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>    :</small><br><br>Chances are they don't know Vietnamese,  so they farmed out the translation to some third party who caused the problem.</div>That is not what occurred.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/655964"><b>jdong</b></A> : It is a disappointment to see the distribution infrastructure for any software project, open or closed source, to be compromised in this manner , but I don't think this is a problem isolated to Mozilla -- I'd like to know how many other vendors have active countermeasures and preventative measures for this kind of compromise.<br><br>On the bright side, I am glad to see Mozilla is instituting policy/procedure changes in reaction to this breach.<br><small>--<br>Ubuntu MOTU Developer and Forums Council</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/129458"><b>KrK</b></A> : No, but Microsoft has served up Malware....<br><br><b>Microsoft Apologizes for Serving up Malware.</b><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://apcmag.com/microsoft_apologises_for_serving_malware.htm" >apcmag.com/microsoft_apologises_&middot;&middot;&middot;ware.htm</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/129458"><b>KrK</b></A> : Chances are they don't know Vietnamese,  so they farmed out the translation to some third party who caused the problem.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Mele20 <A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>BTW, who blew out the margins? It is really hard to read this thread in Fx which doesn't have fit to page feature.</div><div class="bquote"><small>said by  AB <A HREF="/useremail/u/1346679"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>It was the link within this post: &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r20450717-">Re: Wow! Mozilla distributing infected code!</A></div>Fixed. Sorry about that, folks.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/418397"><b>Lanik</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Mele20 <A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>My screen is at 1280x1024 and this thread is one of the worst I have seen for blown margins. <br> </div>So is mine, perhaps its your big fonts that are blowing the margins. ;)<br><small>--<br>"If it ain't broke don't fix it."</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><b>Mele20</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by IWillLoginSoon :</small><br><br>Thank you.<br><br>It seems AB found the culprit quickly. The link does not cause margin problems at 1280x1024 (for me).<br> </div>My screen is at 1280x1024 and this thread is one of the worst I have seen for blown margins. I should have started Opera or Safari as they can handle it but neither Fx 1.5 or 2 can. <br><br>I just checked IE6 and it is not blown on that browser. <br><small>--<br>"The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Thank you.<br><br>It seems AB found the culprit quickly. The link does not cause margin problems at 1280x1024 (for me).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/819609"><b>Grail Knight</b></A> : My notebook is 1280x800<br><br>Tried to get Mele20 rendering issue using Fx v2.0.0.15 and Fx v3pre, IE7, and Opera 9. All are fine.<br><small>--<br>"When the questions get tough the tough pull a MuMu". - unknown</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : I have the same problem on "page 1" while viewing the site anonymously (default thread settings). Resolution on this laptop is 1024x768.<br><br>Can the two unaffected members post some useful information - their screen resolutions?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1346679"><b>AB</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Steve <A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Mele20 <A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br> BTW, who blew out the margins? It is really hard to read this thread in Fx which doesn't have fit to page feature. </div> Hmmm, looks fine to me - any chance you have the Vietnamese language pack installed?<br><br><small>*snicker*</small> :-)</div>Ph&acirc;n th&#7847;n th&aacute;nh!  :o  :D<br><br>Eh, I'll back her up on this one.<br>It was the link within this post: &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r20450717-">Re: Wow! Mozilla distributing infected code!</A><br><br>The margins are blown on page one of this thread for me, too-- page two is fine.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/697274"><b>mrchris</b></A> : Good thing I never downloaded that language pack.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><b>Steve</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Mele20 <A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br> BTW, who blew out the margins? It is really hard to read this thread in Fx which doesn't have fit to page feature. </div> Hmmm, looks fine to me - any chance you have the Vietnamese language pack installed?<br><br><small>*snicker*</small> :-)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/819609"><b>Grail Knight</b></A> : The thread looks fine in Fx Mele20.<br><br>Check your browser <strike>part 1,524-6</strike> again.<br><br>Edit* Line out.<br><small>--<br>"When the questions get tough the tough pull a MuMu". - unknown</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/403861"><b>Mele20</b></A> : And this has what to do with this thread topic?<br><br>BTW, who blew out the margins? It is really hard to read this thread in Fx which doesn't have fit to page feature.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/139520"><b>cork1958</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  slajoh01 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1193776"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I agree, Firefox and Mozilla WILL become unsafe also just like IE.<br><br>Firefox is gaining momentum and its market share is picking up. And that will result in more exploitations.<br> </div>They already have passed Microsoft at exploitations!<br><small>--<br>The Firefox alternative.<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/" >www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><b>Steve</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  jig <A HREF="/useremail/u/279131"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>and as far as this being proof that open source is not safer than closed (another poster), don't be silly. </div> This incident demonstrates nothing more than one particular vendor had one particular quality control problem, and applying it to open source generally does indeed seem silly.<br><br>Steve <small>&mdash; longtime open source contributor</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/918894"><b>Lowtarget</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Davebo_ <A HREF="/useremail/u/723836"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A><br>SP 3 for XP was just recently released.... ;) Folks running OEM AMD machines would call SP3 malware.</div>What would you call? A Intel system running OEM windowsXP SP3. ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1144666"><b>jabarnut</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  dave <A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>You're missing the point; this news isn't about a browser bug, it's about a software distributor's quality control.<br><br>Essentially, most people trust 'big name' software providers to provide sterile code.<br> </div>Exactly.<br>Although, some of the defensive responses don't surprise me at all.<br><br>As usual, as soon as I saw the topic heading, I knew that the "Mozilla crowd" would get all bent out of shape.<br><br>I suppose I should mention that in addition to IE, I'm also a Firefox user....so no need to get too excited (At least as far as my comments).<br><br>It is what it is.<br><small>--<br>I had a life once.....now I have a Computer and a Modem.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1346679"><b>AB</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  dave <A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  MysticGogeta <A HREF="/useremail/u/1173562"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>Wow! I like when people are shocked that a browser isn't perfect so they jump on every opportunity to flame/troll.<br> </div>You're missing the point; this news isn't about a browser bug, it's about a software distributor's quality control. </div>Agree 100%.<br>This has sometimes been an issue in the past (and currently, no doubt) with extensions for Firefox. Mozilla doesn't police them very well.<br>Sure, they could pass it off as 'we're not responsible, that's  third-party code', but they don't-- at least not wholly. They've realized people often mentally connect 'extensions' to 'Mozilla.org' or 'Mozillazine', and therefore crap extensions reflect badly upon them.<br>So while they hardly run the tightest ship imaginable, they do in fact try to limit damage or leaks, and avoid enemy torpedoes as much as possible.<br><br><div class="bquote">Essentially, most people trust 'big name' software providers to provide sterile code.</div>Most people then make a mistake by doing that.<br>Trust no one, as far as the computer is concerned. NO ONE.<br>That's not 'tin-foil hat' stuff, that's merely being practical and cautious, imo.<br><br>But your point is well taken. There is most certainly a level of trust that must be extended between vendor and user.<br>Otherwise, nothing is ever vended, nothing ever installed or used.<br><br>I trust-- yet I don't.<br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  jig <A HREF="/useremail/u/279131"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>. . as far as this being proof that open source is not safer than closed (another poster), don't be silly.</div>Being 'silly' about open-source code is on his <i>good</i> days.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  MysticGogeta <A HREF="/useremail/u/1173562"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Wow! I like when people are shocked that a browser isn't perfect so they jump on every opportunity to flame/troll.<br> </div>You're missing the point; this news isn't about a browser bug, it's about a software distributor's quality control.<br><br>Essentially, most people trust 'big name' software providers to provide sterile code.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/156437"><b>dave</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Steve <A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Blaming ActiveX is like holding an operating system liable because they provide a way to delete a file.</div>I thought with IE and Temporary Internet Files, everyone blamed the operating system for <b>not</b> providing a way to delete a file?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : From &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeusers/security-info/about-malware/encyclopedia/overview.aspx?idvirus=189095&sitepanda=particulares" >www.pandasecurity.com/homeusers/&middot;&middot;&middot;iculares</A><br><br><b>Brief Description</b> <br>&#9;    <br>Xorer.O is a worm that only affects computers that belong to the same local network.<br><br>Its main aim is to capture and modify the HTTP-type network packets that are sent from the computers.<br><br>As a consequence, the websites requested by the user will be displayed with alterations. However, this anomaly will not be displayed in the infected computer.<br><br>Xorer.O spreads through the local, removable and mapped drives, making copies of itself in them.<br><br><b>Visible Symptoms</b><br>&#9;    <br>Xorer.O is difficult to recognize, as it does not display any messages or warnings that indicate it has reached the computer.<br><br>However, as Xorer.O only affects computers that belong to a local network, there will be symptoms in other computers.<br><br>In the computers that are part of the same network as the affected computer, the visited websites will have anomalies, a pop-up window will appear at the bottom right of the website, as in the image below:<br><br><IMG SRC="http://www.pandasecurity.com/img/enc/XorerK_img1.gif"><br><br>Common name: Xorer.O<br>Technical name: W32/Xorer.O.worm<br>Threat level: Medium<br>Type: Worm<br>Effects: It only affects computers that belong to the same local network. It captures and modifies the HTTP-type network packets that are sent from these computers, in such a way that the websites visited by the user will be displayed with alterations. It spreads through the local, removable and mapped drives.<br>Affected platforms: Windows 2003/XP/2000/NT/ME/98/95/3.X<br>First detected on: Feb. 28, 2008<br>Detection updated on: March 1, 2008]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/828285"><b>alamarco</b></A> : Thanks for that quote from Bugzilla  SUMware <A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>.  However I still don't really know what type of virus this was. Was it a trojan? Spyware/data mining? For those infected, what would be the harm?<br><br>Most articles just mention "virus" and nothing about the nature of it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/243195"><b>fatness</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Steve <A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>And they had no kind of re-scanning every time they get A/V updates to have caught this some time ago - they are now doing so,</div>That, to me, was the problem. And in perfect hindsight now, what a stupid idea it was. <br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.livescience.com/animals/071218-monkey-call.html">Female monkeys often utter loud, distinctive calls before, during or after sex.<a>.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/279131"><b>jig</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Steve <A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  goalieskates <A HREF="/useremail/u/1075487"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>Oh grow up. I pick up more bad stuff using IE than I ever do using FF.  </div>I think you're missing the point: here, the malware came <b>from the vendor</b> - Microsoft hasn't ever shipped malware, as far as I know, but Mozilla has.<br> </div>it's hard for me believe that you haven't read the same articles i have over the past 4-6 years that included MS update being hacked through DNS poisoning as well as shipping some virus on cd-updates. anyway, here's the "i got lucky" link when searching for "microsoft ships infected":<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/04/25/microsoft_security_fixes_infected/" >www.theregister.co.uk/2001/04/25&middot;&middot;&middot;nfected/</A><br><br>here's another one:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/06/14/020614hnkorea.html" >www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xm&middot;&middot;&middot;rea.html</A><br><br>and i know there are more.<br><br>and as far as this being proof that open source is not safer than closed (another poster), don't be silly.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/429050"><b>La Luna</b></A> : The problem is that they possibly have poor quality control over "add ons" (or whatever this language pack is officially called). I've often wondered just how well add ons are tested before being put out to the public. <br><br>Who here doesn't believe that the majority of people who download add ons, including language packs, from the Mozilla site itself automatically assume that they are <i>throughly tested</i> and are clean? <br><br>On the flip side, in Mozilla's defense, this particular faux pas seemed to be rather hard to detect as the virus signature was unknown at the time....it just goes to show that nothing is 100% safe and even Mozilla can have an *oops* occasionally.<br><small>--<br><b><A HREF="http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/">11,044 DEADLY TERROR ATTACKS SINCE 9/11</a></b>~~<b><A HREF="/forum/disco">TEAM DISCOVERY</a></b><br><i>Can't feel you anymore, don't need you anymore, don't believe you anymore, I don't need you anymore</i><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Steve <A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>And they had no kind of re-scanning every time they get A/V updates to have caught this some time ago - they are now doing so</div>As you say here, scanning could have been performed with greater diligence. They learned, and  now it will be.<br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Steve <A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>but I don't know how this fails to undermine trust in the distribution mechanism.</div>Didn't expect to see FUD from <i>you</i>.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><b>Steve</b></A> : Yes, I know all that - this was lucky that the infected code couldn't propogate because XPI allows executable code. And they had no kind of re-scanning every time they get A/V updates to have caught this some time ago - they are now doing so, but I don't know how this fails to undermine trust in the distribution mechanism.<br><small>--<br>Stephen J. Friedl | Unix Wizard | Microsoft Security MVP | Tustin, California USA | <A HREF="http://www.unixwiz.net">my web site</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Steve <A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>The <b>distribution mechanism</b> was attacked, and that's news.</div>"With info from Panda security, I think it just because <b>the author's local network was infected with the virus</b>, so it modified html files. The main virus is a Win32 program. The infected code just display annoying banner but it can't propagate."<br><br>"The virus's signature was unknown at the time, and thus passed Mozilla's testing of add-ons."]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><b>Steve</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  MysticGogeta <A HREF="/useremail/u/1173562"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Wow! I like when people are shocked that a browser isn't perfect so they jump on every opportunity to flame/troll. </div> It's not the browser that's imperfect, it's the quality control of distribution. <b>That's news</b>.<div class="bquote"><small>said by  SUMware <A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>The Firefox browser itself was/is not infected.</div>The <b>distribution mechanism</b> was attacked, and that's news. It's just a happy accident that it was a little-used add-on: remember that XPI can <b>execute code</b>.<div class="bquote"><small>said by  Cabal <A HREF="/useremail/u/1432955"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Next? (re: my claim that Microsoft had not distributed malware)</div>Yep, you're right - they did it too.<br><br>Corrupting the distribution system is a <b>tremendous</b> violation of trust.<br><br>Steve <small>&mdash; longtime enthusiastic Firefox user</small><br><small>--<br>Stephen J. Friedl | Unix Wizard | Microsoft Security MVP | Tustin, California USA | <A HREF="http://www.unixwiz.net">my web site</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/782124"><b>BeesTea</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  SUMware <A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>As has been stated, the infection occured in one language extension addon. The Firefox browser itself was/is not infected.<br> </div>An important thing to note.  The extent of involvement for the Mozilla project directly was marginal.  I don't know if the addons are even directly hosted with Mozilla.  This is essentially 3rd party.<br><small>--<br>Overpower, overcome.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432955"><b>Cabal</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  matunga <A HREF="/useremail/u/847301"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>yet another demonstration that open source code is NOT safer than closed source code  :)<br><br>Mozilla spreads malware rather than security:<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1813" >blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1813</A><br> </div><div class="bquote"><small>said by  Steve <A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  goalieskates <A HREF="/useremail/u/1075487"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>Oh grow up. I pick up more bad stuff using IE than I ever do using FF.  </div>I think you're missing the point: here, the malware came <b>from the vendor</b> - Microsoft hasn't ever shipped malware, as far as I know, but Mozilla has.<br> </div><A HREF="http://www.news.com/2100-1001-935994.html">Try</a> <A HREF="http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,101930-page,1/article.html">again</a>. Next?<br><small>--<br>Interested in <A HREF="http://www.romraider.com/">open source engine management</a> for your Subaru?</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : As has been stated, the infection occured in one language extension addon. The Firefox browser itself was/is not infected.<br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  fatness <A HREF="/useremail/u/243195"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br><A HREF="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/firefox-infects.html">Wired News article</a><br><br>   <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Trojan Horse code seemingly accidentally embedded in a language pack available on its Add-ons site. The virus's signature was unknown at the time, and thus passed Mozilla's testing of add-ons.<hr></blockquote><br></div>&raquo;<small>https</small>://<A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432406">bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432406</A>   <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr><b>Dave Miller (MoCo)   2008-05-06 01:47:24 PDT</b><br>clamscan says:<br>vietnamese_language_pack-2.0-fx-win.xpi: HTML.Xorer FOUND<br>The file is dated February 18, the virus signature is date April 14, so we<br>apparently had this in the wild for about 2 months before the scanners were<br>detecting it.<br><br><b>Axel Hecht [:Pike]   2008-05-06 01:50:23 PDT</b><br>FWIW, I think we're talking about<br><A HREF="http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeusers/security-info/about-malware/encyclopedia/overview.aspx?idvirus=189095&sitepanda=particulares">http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeusers/security-info/about-malware/encyclopedia/overview.<br>aspx?idvirus=189095&sitepanda=particulares</a>,<br>right?<br><br><b>Dave Miller (MoCo)   2008-05-06 01:53:02 PDT</b><br>The signature I found that said April 14 on it was HTML.Xorer.A.  The one you<br>just found is much more likely to be a match, and the window looks much smaller<br>there.<br><br><b>Hai-Nam Nguyen (jcisio)   2008-05-06 02:01:26 PDT</b><br>With info from Panda security, I think it just because the author's local<br>network was infected with the virus, so it modified html files. The main virus<br>is a Win32 program. The infected code just display annoying banner but it can't<br>propagate.<br>I think we might just remove the script and everything backs ok.<br><br><b>Justin Scott [:fligtar]   2008-05-06 10:20:09 PDT</b><br>Since we seem to have determined it wasn't malicious on the part of the author,<br>I've changed the add-on status to be in the sandbox and deleted both files.<br>Jasper, please upload a new version without the virus and let us know and we'll<br>check it out before pushing it public again.<br><br><b>Dan Guido   2008-05-07 21:07:14 PDT</b><br>Was the source of this malicious code found?<br><br><b>Jasper Th&aacute;i   2008-05-08 05:04:42 PDT</b><br>Sorry for the inconvenient!<br>I've found that translated help files was modified by a virus, come from China.<br>I'm so busy these days, but I've cleaned up malicious code. The new fresh pack<br>coming soon.<br>Thanks!<hr></blockquote>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/243195"><b>fatness</b></A> : <A HREF="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/firefox-infects.html">Wired News article</a><br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>Mozilla, the maker of the open source Firefox browser, is redoubling its efforts to check user created add-ons for viruses and Trojans after it discovered that a language pack on its official add-on page had been infected for months with rogue code, the organization reported Wednesday.<br><br>Starting in mid-Feburary,  Vietnamese users of Mozilla's open source Firefox browser were at risk of infection from malicious Trojan Horse code seemingly accidentally embedded in a language pack available on its Add-ons site. The virus's signature was unknown at the time, and thus passed Mozilla's testing of add-ons.<br><br>The glitch isn't the first time that seemingly trusted software included rogue code, but such occurences are surprisingly rare given the amount of open-source and shareware programs that net users install based on blind trust. That's not even mentioning the huge selection of pirated software available on file sharing networks that could easily be infected with malware.<br><br>In response to the later discovery of the latent Trojan code by anti-virus software, <b>Mozilla pulled the language pack and announced it would begin scanning all add-ons whenever they update their virus signatures, not just when add-ons are originally posted,</b> according to a entry on the Mozilla security blog. <hr></blockquote><br><br> <blockquote><small>quote:</small><hr>16,667 people had downloaded the add-on since November 2007.<hr></blockquote><br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.livescience.com/animals/071218-monkey-call.html">Female monkeys often utter loud, distinctive calls before, during or after sex.<a>.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 09:26:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><b>Steve</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Lanik <A HREF="/useremail/u/418397"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>I guess nobody reads links these days.  Vietnamese language pack is an addon and doesn't ship with the browser.  :uhh:</div> That it doesn't ship with the product doesn't mean that the vendor doesn't provide it<div class="bquote"> Micro$oft ships far worse, <strike>h</strike>ActiveX comes to mind. </div>ActiveX isn't a thing that ships, it's an interface that everybody uses to create browser extensions. Blaming ActiveX is like holding an operating system liable because they provide a way to delete a file.<br><small>--<br>Stephen J. Friedl | Unix Wizard | Microsoft Security MVP | Tustin, California USA | <A HREF="http://www.unixwiz.net">my web site</a></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 09:26:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/418397"><b>Lanik</b></A> : I guess nobody reads links these days.  Vietnamese language pack is an addon and doesn't ship with the browser.  :uhh:<br><br>Micro$oft ships far worse, <strike>h</strike>ActiveX comes to mind.<br><small>--<br>"If it ain't broke don't fix it."</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 09:09:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Wow! Mozilla distributing infected code!</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/723836"><b>Davebo_</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Steve <A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  goalieskates <A HREF="/useremail/u/1075487"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</small><br><br>Oh grow up. I pick up more bad stuff using IE than I ever do using FF.  </div>I think you're missing the point: here, the malware came <b>from the vendor</b> - Microsoft hasn't ever shipped malware, as far as I know, but Mozilla has.<br> </div>Whatchu talking 'bout Willis!<br><br>SP 3 for XP was just recently released.... ;) Folks running OEM AMD machines would call SP3 malware.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 09:02:39 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Wow! Mozilla distributing infected code!</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1193776"><b>slajoh01</b></A> : I agree, Firefox and Mozilla WILL become unsafe also just like IE.<br><br>Firefox is gaining momentum and its market share is picking up. And that will result in more exploitations.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:52:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Wow! Mozilla distributing infected code!</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/637818"><b>donoreo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Steve <A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Microsoft hasn't ever shipped malware,  </div>Depends on your definition of malware, doesn't it? :) ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:28:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Wow! Mozilla distributing infected code!</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><b>Steve</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  goalieskates <A HREF="/useremail/u/1075487"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Oh grow up. I pick up more bad stuff using IE than I ever do using FF.  </div>I think you're missing the point: here, the malware came <b>from the vendor</b> - Microsoft hasn't ever shipped malware, as far as I know, but Mozilla has.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:26:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Wow! Mozilla distributing infected code!</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1075487"><b>goalieskates</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  matunga <A HREF="/useremail/u/847301"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>yet another demonstration that open source code is NOT safer than closed source code  :)<br><br>Mozilla spreads malware rather than security:<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1813" >blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1813</A><br> </div>Oh grow up. I pick up more bad stuff using IE than I ever do using FF. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:21:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/847301"><b>matunga</b></A> : yet another demonstration that open source code is NOT safer than closed source code  :)<br><br>Mozilla spreads malware rather than security:<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1813" >blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=1813</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 05:45:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1215698"><b>mikenolan7</b></A> : It also highlights one of my concerns with a lot of software available by download - checksums not being provided.  Perhaps checksums might have caught this before 16,000 people downloaded it.  Of course there is no certainty in that, but I think it should be a part of quality control.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 00:42:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Only Vietnamese language pack addon is affected</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><b>Steve</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  SUMware <A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Only Vietnamese language pack addon is affected</div>The point is not to get everybody to check their installations - I didn't download this pack and don't know anybody who did. Most people weren't affected.<br><br>This reveals a shocking lack of quality control. We're <b>lucky</b> it was "only" a Vietnamese language pack.<br><small>--<br>Stephen J. Friedl | Unix Wizard | Microsoft Security MVP | Tustin, California USA | <A HREF="http://www.unixwiz.net">my web site</a></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 00:17:17 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1346679"><b>AB</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Steve <A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by &raquo;<A HREF="http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2008/05/07/compromised-file-in-vietnamese-language-pack-for-firefox-2/" >blog.mozilla.com/security/2008/0&middot;&middot;&middot;refox-2/</A>    :</small><br><br>The Vietnamese language pack for Firefox 2 contains inserted code to load remote content.  This code is the result of a virus infection ...</div>Been out there for 2.5 months! Wow! </div> Ph&acirc;n th&#7847;n th&aacute;nh!  :o]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:38:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432955"><b>Cabal</b></A> : I've seen worse add-ons. :D]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:31:36 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Only Vietnamese language pack addon is affected</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/634007"><b>SUMware</b></A> : Here's the rest:<br><br>"<i>Everyone who downloaded the most recent Vietnamese language pack since February 18, 2008 got an infected copy.  While we cannot determine the exact number of compromised downloads, there have been 16,667 total downloads of the Vietnamese language pack since November 2007, so we anticipate the impact on users to be limited.<br><br>Mozilla does virus scans at upload time but the virus scanner did not catch this issue until several months after the upload.  We are also adding after-the-fact scans of everything to address this sort of case in the future.</i><br><br><b>A new language pack will be available shortly.  Until then, Vietnamese language pack users should disable this package using the add-ons dialog on the Tools menu.</b><br><br><i>More information is available in bugzilla: <A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432406">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432406</a></i>"<br><br>According to Bugzilla the affected file was removed from public staging prior to 2008-05-06 11:06:44 PDT.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:59:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/340145"><b>Steve</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by &raquo;<A HREF="http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2008/05/07/compromised-file-in-vietnamese-language-pack-for-firefox-2/" >blog.mozilla.com/security/2008/0&middot;&middot;&middot;refox-2/</A>   :</small><br><br>The Vietnamese language pack for Firefox 2 contains inserted code to load remote content.  This code is the result of a virus infection, but does not contain the virus itself.  This usually results in the user seeing unwanted ads, but may be used for more malicious actions.<br><br>...</div>Been out there for 2.5 months! Wow!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:31:55 EDT</pubDate>
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