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grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY


edit:
May 4th, @12:49AM

reply to MichaelRS
Re: 4pm - 12am traffic shaping problem list

said by MichaelRS See Profile :

gateway = transponder.
Incorrect. At least the way that Hughes uses the term "gateway", it does not "= transponder". They use it in the sense of "gateway server", where each gateway has an IP address. There are typically six or more Hughes gateway servers per transponder. So the conclusions you based upon this misconception are not valid. Note PLEASE that I have listed my gateway server as part of my signature line. It's been there for years, and for good reason. You asked for people to identify their transponders - that will get you nowhere. If you want meaningful data, you need them to identify their GATEWAY address. And if members would compose a more informative sig line, you wouldn't even HAVE to ask.

A VAR may have one or more gateway address (servers), but I don't know of ANY that occupy a full transponder by themselves. They share, just like everybody else.

And with 2 thousand or more customers per gateway - and six or more gateways per transponder - I believe you're looking at individual customer throttling. Which brings us right back around to individual usage patterns.

Other than a few cases of overstating the obvious, I take little exception to the rest of your "facts". Although I follow Wildblue also, and don't have any idea of what you've identified as a 2007 "crash".

//greg//
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HN7000S/74cm/1w/ProPlus - G16/1250H/Germantown - NAT 66.82.187.152/Gateway 66.82.25.10/DNS 66.82.4.12 and 66.82.4.8 - Firefox - AVG+Firewall v7.5

MichaelRS

join:2006-06-10
Half Moon Bay, CA

WB crash = inability to add more customers (per spot), resulting in installers quiting business for them until their new bird is up. Exact same deal as with HN as they ran out of capital to add more capacity (ie more satellite). They claimed that their new satellite would fix it, but apparently it did not. What is scarry is that HN is using the same technology as WB does for SpaceWay and WB has issues delivering. Topline also the 9000 for HN does not seem to impress the customers.
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HN7000S - Satmex 6 - 1210 - 0.98m / 2W dish - HughesNet ProPlus


MMS747

@direcpc.com
reply to grohgreg
I'm pretty much convinced it's individual, based on usage patterns. In my case, I believe it was triggered by video streaming, especially YouTube. I also believe that not all video streaming will trigger it, but that there is a threshold.


grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY


edit:
May 4th, @08:58AM

reply to MichaelRS
said by MichaelRS See Profile :

WB crash = inability to add more customers (per spot), resulting in installers quiting business for them until their new bird is up. Exact same deal as with HN as they ran out of capital to add more capacity (ie more satellite). They claimed that their new satellite would fix it, but apparently it did not. What is scarry is that HN is using the same technology as WB does for SpaceWay and WB has issues delivering. Topline also the 9000 for HN does not seem to impress the customers.
That is the least supportable collection of sentences you have compiled yet. Such inaccurate representations of how this stuff works have now simply become counterproductive. There is not one technically rationally supportable sentence in that entire paragraph. But none of it has a single thing to do with this topic, I think it's probably best left to die from natural causes.

//greg//
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HN7000S/74cm/1w/ProPlus - G16/1250H/Germantown - NAT 66.82.187.152/Gateway 66.82.25.10/DNS 66.82.4.12 and 66.82.4.8 - Firefox - AVG+Firewall v7.5
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