 Skippy25
join:2000-09-13 Hazelwood, MO
| reply to bicker Re: Build your own network if you're unhappy...
Go take your cheap stupid argument somewhere else.
This network which you claim is theirs was built, upgraded, and improved on the backs of the public. They were, and still for the most part are, built in a monopolistic nature. The use of public rights of way, major barriers of entry, and the many many tax incentives to continue their business is the only thing that allows them to function as they do. |
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join:2007-05-10 Burlington, MA
| Bull, Skippy25. The network was build, upgraded, and improved on the backs of the owners of the companies that build the networks. Again, more predictable entitlement mentality. The use of the public rights of way is more than compensated for with the free service the service providers provide municipalities.
Sheesh. |
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@cox.net
| said by bicker :The network was build, upgraded, and improved on the backs of the owners of the companies that build the networks. Who received their money from who? The customers... Who received tax breaks, benefits and incentives from who ? The public...
Again, more predictable entitlement mentality. The use of the public rights of way is more than compensated for with the free service the service providers provide municipalities. Clearly you have NO IDEA who much it costs to establish, maintain and administer RoWs and the associated issues and complaints that come with them. And lets not even mention the associated infrastructure costs (roads, etc).
Sheesh. Yeah, that's what everyone is saying when they read your posts that are disconnected from reality... Sheesh. |
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 Skippy25
join:2000-09-13 Hazelwood, MO
| reply to bicker As factchecker has already pointed out you are either a young kid that has no clue, have a vested interest in the way things are, or are just plain stupid.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are just a young kid that truly has no clue how any of these networks were created and the shear amount of government subsidies given to them (whether it be direct financial, indirect financial, or restricted competition).
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 bicker
join:2007-05-10 Burlington, MA
| reply to factchecker You're blowing smoke. The owners received their money from their employers and their savings. Not "the customers". They earned their money and have inviolable rights to invest as they see fit, and have their investments make money if they offer a desirable service!!!!!
Again, tax breaks and other considerations were offered IN RETURN FOR SERVICES RENDERED TO THE MUNICIPALITY, not in return for operating as you would have them, as a not-for-profit. That's such "me me me" thinking that it disgusts me. Get over yourself! The world does not exist to serve you.
You clearly are trying to defend your selfish perspective regardless of the reality of the situation, regardless of what our society has determined to be the actuality. Rethink your perspectives, factchecker... you're wrong. |
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join:2007-05-10 Burlington, MA
| reply to Skippy25 I'm not a young kid. I'm a baby boomer. I simply refuse to grant selfish perspectives an unrebutted soapbox. So why don't you start trying to defend your perspectives on their merits, and explain why you think business should be cut off at the knees, and how that will improve our economy. :rolleyes: Or don't -- rather recognize that your perspectives are wrong and just give up. Your choice. |
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 DummBonez
join:2005-01-22 Vacaville, CA
| Why should business be cutoff at the knees?
lol - because the "Business" will have no problem cutting off your head in the name of profit and power.
Because this "business" you talk of already controls everything. There is no regulation. And what little there is, is controled by themselves. They do whatever the hell they want. Whatever makes more profit, reguardless of consequence. They don't care about you, me, or anything except the bottem line.
What you call "Helping the economy", I call "Greed".
So keep letting these businesses regulate themselves, let them do whatever they want in the name of "helping our economy"...I mean "Greed". So that you can live out the rest of what little time you have left feeling good that the the most important thing in life, the economy, is being served.
Then, when this type of "Greed" based economy fails in the future(and I guarantee it will), our grandchildren can wonder what the hell people like you were thinking. Just like I'm wondering now.
What the hell are you thinking?
You serve big business when you should be serving people. And don't think for a moment that these businesses help people; they enslave people, just like you. |
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join:2007-05-10 Burlington, MA
| I think your perspective is incredibly myopic and un-American, DummBonez. It's all about you, isn't it. The business of America is business. Get used to it, because it is the reality you'll have to deal with when you grow up.
Incidentally, I serve REALITY, not business or people. |
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