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| reply to grohgreg Re: 4pm - 12am traffic shaping problem list
said by grohgreg :1. Not counting an occasional few minutes during very heavy rain, my connection is working just fine, 24/7 2. ProPlus 3. about 8 years ago 4. DW3000>DW4000>HN7000S 5. G4R (99) 6. 1250H 7. Test History for Site ID: 'xXxxxxxx' April 6th, 11:35PM - 1179/186 kbps April 6th, 11:33PM - 1065/175 kbps April 4th, 02:05PM - 994/126 kbps April 4th, 02:04PM - 727/92 kbps March 18th, 09:40AM - 1206/169 kbps March 18th, 09:38AM - 1214/190 kbps March 11th, 03:47PM - 1105/150 kbps March 11th, 03:46PM - 1110/173 kbps February 29th, 08:56AM - 1083/187 kbps February 29th, 08:55AM - 1000/182 kbps February 3rd, 03:18PM - 1151/194 kbps February 3rd, 03:16PM - 1193/194 kbps January 30th, 12:49PM - 984/128 kbps January 30th, 12:48PM - 769/153 kbps January 16th, 08:19AM - 1179/138 kbps January 16th, 08:18AM - 1005/144 kbps And I didn't cherry pick the best ones either. This is a copy cut and paste of every speed test I've done since January 16th. There aren't very many - because I've no reason to do it for myself. I only test when others like yourself need to see that not everybody shares your pain. Bottom line; I don't see now - nor have I ever seen - any suggestion that the performance of my connection is affected in any way by "traffic shaping" //greg// This test history is meaningless as there is a complete absence of test results between 4 pm and 11 pm. | |   grohgreg Dunno. Ask The Chief
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edit: April 7th, @09:51AM
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This test history is meaningless as there is a complete absence of test results between 4 pm and 11 pm. Do you understand time zones ?
Even if you do - and considering that my speed tests generally coincide with dubious complaints about throughput (or traffic shaping) - I believe you just made my point.
Consider also that I mentioned cherry-picking. Rejecting input that doesn't conform to a preconceived notion - fits that category perfectly.
//greg// -- HN7000S/74cm/1w/ProPlus - G16/1250H/Germantown - NAT 66.82.187.152/Gateway 66.82.25.10/DNS 66.82.4.12 and 66.82.4.8 - Firefox - AVG+Firewall v7.5 | |  MonstaDriva
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edit: April 7th, @10:45PM
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Greg , your test really don't show a single result from the affected times . The test results reflect hughesnets eastern time zone and not your own . I know this for a fact . You need test results for after 4pm and before 12 am est . But even if yours is ok , I am scientific enough to know some of us DOOO have a problem that has nothing to do with normal congestion . I'd be very happy to have my old normal congestion problems back . At least then I had a fighting chance .
These problems begin at exactly the stroke of 4 pm and end at exactly 12am and remain constant throughout the period and do support the nefarious charge of shaping or taking away whatever you wanna call it .
On another note after I got nowhere with hughesnet tecj support and they got thru running their diagnostics my good speeds during unaffected times now peak at only around 700 for the first time ever since I've owned this system . I have always gotten mid 800's until that fateful phonecall .
April 7th, 08:36AM - 702/60 kbps April 7th, 08:34AM - 694/58 kbps April 7th, 08:08AM - 712/129 kbps April 7th, 08:05AM - 720/131 kbps April 6th, 11:58PM - 70/23 kbps April 6th, 09:37PM - 66/17 kbps April 6th, 05:24PM - 65/37 kbps April 6th, 02:53AM - 711/166 kbps April 5th, 01:31AM - 830/186 kbps April 4th, 09:23PM - 62/67 kbps April 4th, 08:04PM - 69/53 kbps April 4th, 04:35PM - 77/31 kbps April 4th, 04:23PM - 76/75 kbps April 4th, 04:02PM - 82/33 kbps April 4th, 03:48PM - 806/29 kbps April 4th, 12:59PM - 863/72 kbps April 4th, 10:55AM - 869/93 kbps April 4th, 08:23AM - 865/94 kbps April 4th, 01:00AM - 871/94 kbps April 4th, 12:10AM - 867/79 kbps April 3rd, 09:23PM - 65/34 kbps April 3rd, 09:21PM - 72/35 kbps April 3rd, 09:19PM - 66/63 kbps April 3rd, 08:38PM - 64/12 kbps April 3rd, 07:45PM - 70/29 kbps April 3rd, 07:01PM - 71/44 kbps April 3rd, 06:27PM - 66/37 kbps April 3rd, 05:50PM - 66/66 kbps April 3rd, 04:41PM - 66/54 kbps April 3rd, 04:18PM - 76/48 kbps April 3rd, 04:10PM - 80/49 kbps April 3rd, 03:33PM - 671/39 kbps April 3rd, 02:45PM - 839/78 kbps April 3rd, 01:37PM - 833/60 kbps April 3rd, 11:42AM - 832/53 kbps April 3rd, 10:27AM - 824/78 kbps April 3rd, 10:25AM - 831/63 kbps April 3rd, 08:05AM - 827/145 kbps April 3rd, 12:27AM - 835/181 kbps April 3rd, 12:25AM - 838/133 kbps April 2nd, 11:57PM - 67/42 kbps April 2nd, 11:28PM - 69/68 kbps April 2nd, 10:56PM - 70/61 kbps April 2nd, 09:24PM - 64/27 kbps April 2nd, 08:41PM - 70/34 kbps April 2nd, 07:53PM - 66/29 kbps April 2nd, 07:17PM - 65/49 kbps April 2nd, 07:01PM - 16/29 kbps April 2nd, 06:47PM - 65/38 kbps April 2nd, 06:42PM - 66/71 kbps April 2nd, 05:49PM - 56/60 kbps April 2nd, 05:47PM - 39/28 kbps April 2nd, 04:29PM - 79/65 kbps April 2nd, 04:28PM - 84/58 kbps April 2nd, 07:28AM - 836/176 kbps April 1st, 07:27PM - 65/23 kbps April 1st, 07:12PM - 20/38 kbps April 1st, 05:14PM - 21/34 kbps April 1st, 03:45AM - 261/111 kbps March 30th, 01:48AM - 830/148 kbps March 28th, 06:59AM - 839/189 kbps March 27th, 10:51PM - 70/33 kbps March 27th, 09:41PM - 65/12 kbps March 27th, 08:18PM - 45/71 kbps March 27th, 03:05PM - 815/54 kbps March 25th, 06:22PM - 61/25 kbps March 25th, 05:03PM - 65/40 kbps March 15th, 09:28AM - 818/170 kbps | |   Vtblues if you can't get out of it, get in to it Premium join:2006-05-29 Brookfield, VT clubs:  
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| Re: 4pm - 12am traffic shaping problem list
Have even so much as called Executive Customer Care with well documented issues? Have you explained that level four has basically told you they can't help you?
I see a ton of complaining here but seldom do I see people see past their anger about their complaints enough to take effective actions to resolve them.
I am in 100% agreement that it's a horrible business practice on Hughes's part to subject their customers to this, but it is what it is. -- I'm folding and crunching to try to help prevent stories like »Update on my son who has cancer
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edit: April 7th, @06:27PM
| Re: 4pm - 12am traffic shaping problem list
I did not participate in that thread. I'd also like to ask where Karl mentioned traffic shaping in that article.
I would like to point out that neither Greg nor myself are trying argue or "have the last word" What we are doing is trying to use our more than six month history of looking into and helping solve others issues with Hughes for no other reason than we've each found some effective ways of doing so. Greg, with his long history of two way satellite communications on the technical side, and I with my experience at getting Hughes support to work for me and others.
It seems your lack of ability to accept any explanation other than traffic shaping might be rooted in your inability to understand that traffic shaping would affect 100% of the users on whatever given satellite it was being practiced on and that just isn't happening.
 I would ask you to point out to me where the traffic shaping is in this 6:24 pm speed test.
I wish you success in resolving your speed issues. -- I'm folding and crunching to try to help prevent stories like »Update on my son who has cancer
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