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@telus.net

Re: I told you guys before.....

said by JasonD :

There was no way that Teksavvy was going to last offering excess bandwidth for a mere 10 cents a gig. That amounts to at least enabling abuse of what ultimately is Bell Canada's network.

While I don't necessarily agree with Bell Canada's position of there being 'plenty of competition', but do understand their desire to rid themselves of government regulation.
Please advise what part of paying pre-defined service price for a pre-defined service constitutes abuse. I shall be fascinated to hear you answer.

JasonD

@comcast.net

Re: I told you guys before.....

Here's my response: allowing unfettered (until now) 1TB transfer = a mere $100 in bandwidth charges.

Teksavvy may pay Bell Canada an access fee, but they shouldn't be allowed to flood Bell Canada's network thanks in part to underpriced bandwidth.

Mike
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Re: I told you guys before.....

So TekSavvy should not pay for everything they bought.

This means you're in favor for billing by byte?
qworster

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Re: I told you guys before.....

said by Mike See Profile :

So TekSavvy should not pay for everything they bought.

This means you're in favor for billing by byte?
So let me get this straight:

I lease a Jaguar from you at FULL WHOLESALE PRICE. I turn around and lease it to the public for the same price you lease Ford Escorts to them for. Because of this, I get more business then you do...

So, that gives you the right to break into my garage and install a govenor on all my Jags so they won't go over 50 MPH?

NO FU%^&(G WAY!!!

URTrolling

@telus.net

said by JasonD :

Teksavvy may pay Bell Canada an access fee, but they shouldn't be allowed to flood Bell Canada's network thanks in part to underpriced bandwidth.
Well, that's a nice attempt at a diversionary "straw man" argument, but it holds no water. It appears that you simply pulled the phrase "flood Bell Canada's network" out of the air with no evidence to support it.

Secondly, contract law and regulatory rulings have little empathy for phrases like "shouldn't", specifically because they are subjective terms.

Lastly, your own emotional response (i.e., your second sentence), it is irrelevant to the discussion.

By the way - a friendly suggestion: one should be very careful that what one writes (even in forums like this), couldn't be construed as libelous

KrK
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I suggest you check into what you are talking about. It's TekSavvy's network. All Bell provides is the last mile connection and routing to TekSavvy.

Snickerdo
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Niagara Falls, ON

said by JasonD :

Teksavvy may pay Bell Canada an access fee, but they shouldn't be allowed to flood Bell Canada's network thanks in part to underpriced bandwidth.
Wow, someone left the door to the peanut gallery open tonight.

Teksavvy doesn't use Bell's network for bandwidth. End of story. Bell only provides the copper to the subscriber and the ATM/GigE cloud between the DSLAM and Teksavvy's POP. Teksavvy buys Internet transport from Peer1, Teleglobe, Cogent and a few others.
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said by JasonD :

Teksavvy may pay Bell Canada an access fee, but they shouldn't be allowed to flood Bell Canada's network thanks in part to underpriced bandwidth.
Underpriced bandwidth? Have you ever stopped to consider the thought that maybe other ISP's overage charges are OVERPRICED?

I don't know about you, but I don't consider anything more than $1/GB to be a "fair" price.
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