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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Re-Re-read what Comcast posted. said by Noah Vail:Non-discriminatory means NO discrimination. That means no prioritizing, throttling, packet forging, packet injection, or anything else. Since you can not make an alteration to the network traffic streams without discrimination (ie:examination and evaluation), Comcast is promising to leave the network traffic fully unaltered. Uhh.. no. Queue the Sesame Street "Some of these things are not like the others" music. Throttling and prioritization do not modify traffic, and will still very much be a part of any network's traffic management strategy. Per the press release:
"This means that we will have to rapidly reconfigure our network management systems, but the outcome will be a traffic management technique that is more appropriate for today's emerging Internet trends. We have been discussing this migration and its effects with leaders in the Internet community for the last several months, and we will refine, adjust, and publish the technique based upon feedback and initial trial results," said Tony Werner, Comcast Cable's Chief Technology Officer. said by Noah Vail:To bring non-discrimination to practice would involve walking across the net-op center floor and powering off the Sandvine equipment. Just curious, in your world does the equipment room have a big switch labeled "Internet" that should always remain in the "ON" position? | |
| said by espaeth:Just curious, in your world does the equipment room have a big switch labeled "Internet" that should always remain in the "ON" position? Why Yes it does! Have you seen it too?  | |
 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
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Comcast should only prioritize according to approved "Internet Standard" RFCs. Any other behavior is not Network Neutral.
Back in the ...-.- day, the rule was "First In, First Out." No message, except for those of the government, would get precedence.
These days, we do have Standards that allow prioritization, but the en-route transit providers do not have carte blanche to prioritize them any way that they want to.
Edit: strikethrough my obviously overbroad statement
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espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
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| said by funchords:Comcast should only prioritize according to approved "Internet Standard" RFCs. Any other behavior is not Network Neutral. That's great, except there are no official standards on how applications should be prioritized. | |
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said by espaeth:Uhh.. no. Queue the Sesame Street "Some of these things are not like the others" music. Don't take this the wrong way,....
...but you're the only one who can hear the SS music.
I'm sure it's lovely.
said by espaeth:Throttling and prioritization do not modify traffic, and will still very much be a part of any network's traffic management strategy. I never spoke of modifying traffic. That was you, I'm somebody else. Perhaps the music is distracting you?
I spoke of Comcast's promise was to provide a non-discriminatory framework.
Which form of packet manipulation takes place without any packet examination and evaluation whatsoever?
said by espaeth:"This means that we will have to rapidly reconfigure our network management systems, but the outcome will be a traffic management technique that is more appropriate for today's emerging Internet trends. We have been discussing this migration and its effects with leaders in the Internet community for the last several months, and we will refine, adjust, and publish the technique based upon feedback and initial trial results," said Tony Werner, Comcast Cable's Chief Technology Officer. That's nice.
I notice he never addressed the specific network management techniques they are considering and what their goals are in respect to them. Of course, that would be information. The dissemination of which is not their strong point.
His white noise technospeak is very soothing, though. Needs some background music. Maybe some....
said by espaeth:Just curious, in your world does the equipment room have a big switch labeled "Internet" that should always remain in the "ON" position? That's just SOOOOOO cute! I can see you with Big Bird, in his "Big Room 'o Tubes". And there you are jumping up and down, dying to pull on the big foam rubber switchey thingey.
I'm sorry you mistook that for the Sandvine Policy Traffic Switch power breaker. Here, have a cookie; the music is starting up again for you.
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