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| What % of File-sharing is Legal?
I've read only 1%.
If you have different, post the fact and link.
Don't give me the stealing is okay argument. Just facts.
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Alphy
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Skeedatl
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I'd believe it. Take a look at any file sharing search engine and see what the top results are. Every one I've seen, the first few pages of results are all copyrighted, stuff (either music, movies or software). |
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| Let's just go ahead and "believe" or "have a feeling" because of what we see.
Good thing we dont run our country this way. no, wait...
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Skeedatl
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It's a shame we don't run the country using more common sense. |
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said by Alphy  :Where did you read that it was 1%? Please link me to that I believe it was in the NY Times a few years ago.
I've went to Torrent sites. All I saw was illegal stuff. So, I bet the 99% of file-sharing is illegal is probably correct.
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| said by supergirl :said by Alphy :Where did you read that it was 1%? Please link me to that I believe it was in the NY Times a few years ago. I've went to Torrent sites. All I saw was illegal stuff. So, I bet the 99% of file-sharing is illegal is probably correct. No, no, no. You got it backwards. The NYT said only 1% was illegal. I recently visited a torrent site and everything I saw was legal. I'm sure 99% of file-sharing is legal is probably correct.
Opinions. You can warp 'em any way you want! |
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| said by prestonlewis :said by supergirl :said by Alphy :Where did you read that it was 1%? Please link me to that I believe it was in the NY Times a few years ago. I've went to Torrent sites. All I saw was illegal stuff. So, I bet the 99% of file-sharing is illegal is probably correct. No, no, no. You got it backwards. The NYT said only 1% was illegal. I recently visited a torrent site and everything I saw was legal. I'm sure 99% of file-sharing is legal is probably correct. Opinions. You can warp 'em any way you want! Just when I didn't think I could find a more ridiculous comment. 
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| Says the person who went to torrent sites where ALL THEY HAVE IS COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL. Yeah, that's the *only* place to get stuff via BitTorrent.
That 1% is probably right, given the sheer amount of copyright infringement that is done, but you've gotta find more evidence than a random NYT article you can't find and your searches through teh torrentz. |
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said by supergirl :I believe it was in the NY Times a few years ago.I've went to Torrent sites. All I saw was illegal stuff. So, I bet the 99% of file-sharing is illegal is probably correct. Yeah, we can really believe the NY Times. |
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tiger72
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irony much? |
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tiger72
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Go with yer gut!
How bout them Dubya Em Dees? |
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said by prestonlewis :said by supergirl :said by Alphy :Where did you read that it was 1%? Please link me to that I believe it was in the NY Times a few years ago. I've went to Torrent sites. All I saw was illegal stuff. So, I bet the 99% of file-sharing is illegal is probably correct. No, no, no. You got it backwards. The NYT said only 1% was illegal. I recently visited a torrent site and everything I saw was legal. I'm sure 99% of file-sharing is legal is probably correct. Opinions. You can warp 'em any way you want! So me a torrent search engine that has 99% of their top results legal items, cause I can show you lots that are 99% (or more) illegal items.
These opinions are soundly based on observation. |
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said by Skeedatl :It's a shame we don't run the country using more common sense. Clearly.
Just because you saw a few sites that have some copyrighted material on them does not mean you can claim that most file sharing is illegal. Just because you do not know of the websites or have only seen one of them that have non-copyrighted material does not mean you can claim that either wise. When you come back with actual research done by a reputable organization using sound research methods (not the "Look, a couple of illegal file sharing sites, all of them must be illegal!" method) I will believe you.
P.S. - Running a search for "legal file sharing" will not give you a list of all legal file sharing sites. Sometimes -- just sometimes -- it takes a bit more than Googling a search term to find what you are looking for.
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Skeedatl
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Ever seen an electron? No? I guess by your logic they must not exist. |
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| said by Skeedatl :A few sites? Try all of the most popular ones. Does that equate to ALL file sharing? No.
said by Skeedatl :Ever seen an electron? No? I guess by your logic they must not exist. Noone really knows for sure, but at least there is enough SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE to show that most-likely they do exist.
What scientific evidence is there that all (or most) file sharing is illegal? A few readily-disproved statistics in a few hardly-scientific newspapers or magazines? A couple of Joes browsing the internet and making claims based on their viewing of less than 0.01% of the internet?
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said by prestonlewis :said by supergirl :said by Alphy :Where did you read that it was 1%? Please link me to that I believe it was in the NY Times a few years ago. I've went to Torrent sites. All I saw was illegal stuff. So, I bet the 99% of file-sharing is illegal is probably correct. No, no, no. You got it backwards. The NYT said only 1% was illegal. I recently visited a torrent site and everything I saw was legal. I'm sure 99% of file-sharing is legal is probably correct. Opinions. You can warp 'em any way you want! Are you high? You probably think download a copy of your favorite movie or TV show via torrent is legal don't you? |
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Skeedatl
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Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. |
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said by Skeedatl : ... the first few pages of results are all copyrighted, stuff ... How do you know it is copyrighted stuff? You must have downloaded something, played it, and saw it was. Right? Hmmmmm so you violated copyright laws? There is NO OTHER way to identify copyright infringement.
These "guesstimates" of illegal P2P use are meaningless suppositions, which can't withstand legal scrutiny.
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The funny part is, I'd bet around half of the "illegal" content isnt actually the "illegal" file it claims to be. |
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