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yankees2008

join:2008-02-20
Los Angeles, CA

Combine dsl lines to create 1

Ordered two dsl lines from ATT and want to combine them to make them one.

Is there a specific product we can purchase to achieve this?

Thanks!

The RV042 is a dual WAN router, it would connect to two DSL Modems to double throughput for 2 identical DSL connections. It would not reduce latency or speed up single threaded downloads.

»www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellit···18934B02


yankees2008

join:2008-02-20
Los Angeles, CA

Thanks.

So you don't recommend this one?



d_l
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reply to yankees2008
There isn't any way to combine two DSL lines into a "double speed" line without special equipment from the ISP or DSL transport provider.

What the RV042 WILL do is use those two lines to provide double the bandwidth. Then there is the RV082, which is the dual WAN router that is the next step up in the Linksys line from the RV042 and is their top line dual WAN router.


yankees2008

join:2008-02-20
Los Angeles, CA

This is what I want to do:

- already have 2 dsl connections (6/768 each) and want to take those 2 lines run them into a wireless router (apple's airport) to provide internet access to about 4-5 people.

- also, will be using a VoIP service with 4-5 phones.

Will this router allow for all of this and ensure that everyone stays connected?

Thanks!



Jameson
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Fallbrook, CA
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said by yankees2008:

This is what I want to do:

- already have 2 dsl connections (6/768 each) and want to take those 2 lines run them into a wireless router (apple's airport) to provide internet access to about 4-5 people.

- also, will be using a VoIP service with 4-5 phones.

Will this router allow for all of this and ensure that everyone stays connected?

Thanks!
Yes.


gyrfalcon

join:2003-03-12
Minneapolis, MN

reply to yankees2008

said by yankees2008:

This is what I want to do...want to take those 2 lines run them into a wireless router ...to provide internet access to about 4-5 people.
You can do load balancing with a number of routers, or PC's fairly easily.

If I was getting two ADSL lines I would buy something like a Cisco 1721 and put two ADSL WIC's in it. That way you're able to administer the DSL modems, routing and load balancing in one device.

AT&T might also offer some bonding solutions, but who knows.

yankees2008

join:2008-02-20
Los Angeles, CA

Thanks.

ATT doesn't offer bonding.

The Cisco 1721 seems to be close to $2G's,

Was looking at the D-Link DI-LB604 and seeking other recommends of which Linksys and whatever other companies are out there.

Thanks again.



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Re: Combine dsl lines to create 1

You asked about other options:

I have a Draytec Vigor 2910 Dual Wan router ( with a built in VoIP adapter and 802.11G). Will do DHCP and PPPoE on each of the 2 WAN ports, Load balancing,Fail over, QOS, VPN, Connection Policies ( who uses what WAN ports, when allowed etc) as well as a lot of other features. Have used it since November and has been 100% stable since I set it up.

They also make units with out VoIP and wireless but I don't know price or performance of them.

I got this model to try and consolidate some of the hardware in my den. Was able to "retire" a PAP2 VoIP adapter, 2 WRT54G, a 4 port switch and a Server for DHCP. Power savings will pay for it in a short time.

Cost is about $250.
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gyrfalcon

join:2003-03-12
Minneapolis, MN

reply to yankees2008

said by yankees2008:

ATT doesn't offer bonding....The Cisco 1721 seems to be close to $2G's, Was looking at the D-Link DI-LB604 and seeking other recommends of which Linksys and whatever other companies are out there
The DI-LB604 seems alright and definitely has a low price point. With the Cisco 1721 I was more thinking about ebay, but even then you'll probably spend around $400 or $500 w/WICs.

You could also check out the NetGear FVS124G or Linksys VPN device that has load balancing features.

yankees2008

join:2008-02-20
Los Angeles, CA

reply to gyrfalcon

Re: Combine dsl lines to create 1

Leaning towards the Linksys RV082 and wondering what the RV016 offers over it.

Anyone think these are bad choices for what I am trying to do?

Thanks again for help!


d_l
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reply to yankees2008
As you go up in router price, the ownership of the router is obviously more restricted. So you get fewer opinions and if you need help, there are fewer responses from actual owners/operators of that model.

I've only seen very few posts from RV016 owners. Mostly there were some problems setting up load balancing between more than two connections.

My RV082 works great on a SOHO system with dual AT&T DSL lines. I'm the only user connected so it is a little overkill.

One problem you might have with any RV-series model (I have read posts about this) is if both DSL lines get connected to the same aggregation router (redback or BRAS) and if your lines are issued IPs in the same subnet, the router may have some routing problems. I'm not sure if you had that problem that you couldn't just power cycle one of the modems to try to be randomly issued another IP on a different subnet.

Fortunately my lines are connected to different aggregation routers. This also adds a little extra redundancy to my network if one of those routers should be down.


yankees2008

join:2008-02-20
Los Angeles, CA

All this stuff is completely new to me, so stuff like SOHO, etc. are unknown to me.

Each DSL line has its own modem (motorola). I kind of understand the IP issue and being that each DSL line is on different lines, would hope that they are different IPs and won't cause too much of a headache.

I believe they are static lines.

Will probably go with the RV082 and hope it is stupid friendly...



gatorkram
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Small Office, Home Office = SOHO


yankees2008

join:2008-02-20
Los Angeles, CA

Thanks!

If you have a second, what do you mean by "Fortunately my lines are connected to different aggregation routers."?

Is that something I would need to do?



d_l
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ATTIS, the ISP branch of AT&T, owns the aggregation routers, aka gateway routers. When you do a trace route to a site, their routers will be the first hop you see off your network. Each router has a pool of IPs it issues for dynamic accounts and there are be multiple subnets within the pool.

I think the problem would only arise if both of your lines were issued IPs within the same /29 /24 subnet, e.g. aaa.bbb.ccc.xxx. The two lines would have IPs that only differed by the xxx numbers.

I was lucky and my lines were configured on the two gateways by chance, but they were ordered at different times. What I would suggest is to wait and see if you end up with both lines connected to the same gateway and if that causes problems, you should be able to get one line moved to another gateway by posting your problem in AT&T Direct forum here: »AT&T Direct.



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said by d_l:

I think the problem would only arise if both of your lines were issued IPs within the same /29 subnet, e.g. aaa.bbb.ccc.xxx. The two lines would have IPs that only differed by the xxx numbers.
Just as an FYI, that would be a /24 IP block (256 IPs AKA a class C), a /29 IP Block is 8 IP's
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d_l
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Oh crap, I checked that /24 was correct in my SolarWinds Advanced Subnet Calculator: »www.solarwinds.com/products/free···tor.aspx and then stupidly used /29 in the post. /29 is what is normally sold by AT&T as a static IP block. I must have had that on my mind.


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