nasadude
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Re: I think it's interesting...
said by supergirl  :.... But, I think Comcast traffic shaping illegal traffic is okay ... Q: how do they know it's illegal?
A: they don't
Someone did a P2P test using the bible (a public domain work), it was blocked by comcast. Comcast is not blocking illegal traffic, they are blocking P2P traffic |
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espaeth
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| Congestion is congestion, whether the traffic is legal or not. Individual TCP sessions all attempt to get the best performance they can, so the bigger question is why should a P2P app which opens up 30 TCP sessions get 30 times the shot at upload throughput that I get with my single TCP session to upload photos to my website?
Restricting the number of upstream sessions that a P2P app can establish increases the "fairness" of non-P2P sessions as a result. |
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MacLeech
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said by nasadude :said by supergirl :.... But, I think Comcast traffic shaping illegal traffic is okay ... Q: how do they know it's illegal? A: they don't Someone did a P2P test using the bible (a public domain work), it was blocked by comcast. Comcast is not blocking illegal traffic, they are blocking P2P traffic Well within the terms of their TOS:
»www.comcast.net/terms/use.jsp
said by Comcast TOS :
Prohibited Uses and Activities
Prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, using the Service, Customer Equipment, or the Comcast Equipment to:
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xiv. run programs, equipment, or servers from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to anyone outside of your Premises LAN (Local Area Network), also commonly referred to as public services or servers. Examples of prohibited services and servers include, but are not limited to, e-mail, Web hosting, file sharing, and proxy services and servers;
So it seems that Comcast is just enforcing its TOS by limiting P2P uploading.... |
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macaholic
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| pssst they changed the TOS regarding p2p yesterday or today.... to coincide with the their "legal" bullshit. Just because its in a TOS does not make it good business or even FCC approved/legal.
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MacLeech
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| said by macaholic :pssst they changed the TOS regarding p2p yesterday or today.... to coincide with the their "legal" bullshit. Just because its in a TOS does not make it good business or even FCC approved/legal. I haven't ever seen a cable ISP that didn't prohibit SERVERS in their TOS.
Comcast may have clarified it recently, but I'm sure it's been there for years.
...and don't try to even say that a P2P program seeding is not a server. |
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macaholic
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| said by MacLeech :said by macaholic :pssst they changed the TOS regarding p2p yesterday or today.... to coincide with the their "legal" bullshit. Just because its in a TOS does not make it good business or even FCC approved/legal. I haven't ever seen a cable ISP that didn't prohibit SERVERS in their TOS. Earthlink, Roadrunner....
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said by MacLeech :said by macaholic :pssst they changed the TOS regarding p2p yesterday or today.... to coincide with the their "legal" bullshit. Just because its in a TOS does not make it good business or even FCC approved/legal. I haven't ever seen a cable ISP that didn't prohibit SERVERS in their TOS. Comcast may have clarified it recently, but I'm sure it's been there for years. ...and don't try to even say that a P2P program seeding is not a server. I know Cox and Comcast prohibit servers. So, your analogy makes lots of sense to me.
When I was on Napster, the best people to download from where at Colleges since they were on huge connections. People would get warning letters from Comcast@Home for too much Upstream. When Napster was found to be illegal, I quit using such things. So, yes, sounds like you are seeding a server or it looks like that since you are giving out large files (called serving) just not communicating like IMing.
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