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B
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A Joke, Karl?

Surely this is a joke, right? A well researched and well written joke?

ISPs are really going to inflict something like this on their paying customers. I'm sorry. I simply refuse to believe that any organization could be so mind-numbingly greedy and blind to basic human decency. I'm just going to pretend I didn't see this.

-- B
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a non mouse

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said by B See Profile :

Surely this is a joke, right? A well researched and well written joke?

ISPs are really going to inflict something like this on their paying customers. I'm sorry. I simply refuse to believe that any organization could be so mind-numbingly greedy and blind to basic human decency. I'm just going to pretend I didn't see this.

-- B
And you think any company wouldn't do this based on what exactly ?

Because of isps becoming so large , YES IM LOOKING AT YOU COMCAST, they think they can do what they want with the content. That includes throttling , faking packets and injecting ads.

Interesting to note one ISP a lot of people use ( I won't mention names ) has more ads on some pages I visit from then from work where they provide us just pipes. But yet my friends on Verizon don't see the same added on ads. Yeah it's freaky and disturbing , but I have learned to just use a anon proxy with ssl.
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RadioDoc
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reply to B
I have a question for NebuAD (Nebulous Advertising?): How are you going to fire ads back my way once the data is collected if you are not, indeed, keeping personally identifiable, individual information?
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B
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Yeah, they do try to explain it a bit -- it's another one of those "oh we keep aggregate demographics but there's no way, ever, it could be traced back to you; only we control the magical ability to target pizza ads to you after you search on 'pepperoni'" things. And not only don't I believe them either, it's beside the point. It's so prima facie wrong that it's almost unbelievable.

-- B
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matrix3D

join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT
reply to a non mouse
I believe I've found a gaping hole in this guys' argument. If these hashes cannot be traced back to the originating IP address... how is it that they can deliver targeted advertisements back to the end user??


informer

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Yup. I got the same lies from FasTrak - they claimed they couldn't track me, and yet they were able to send me a bill saying when I went through which toll booth. Lies, both!


TamaraB
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said by matrix3D See Profile :

I believe I've found a gaping hole in this guys' argument. If these hashes cannot be traced back to the originating IP address... how is it that they can deliver targeted advertisements back to the end user??
Because your specific "hash" will identify you. Not who you are by name, address, or IP, which is really irrelevant to the purpose at hand. You will be identified by a hash number; your browsing history will be attached to that number, and when that number visits a website "targeted ads" will be sent to you. They don't care who you are, they are interested in what you are likely to buy. Ads will be targeted to your unique hash ID.

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