Re: Sure... We'll get right on that. in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19961791 en Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:22:16 EDT Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:22:16 EDT Re: Sure... We'll get right on that. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19965329 wierdo : If by "equipment limitation," you mean "CableLabs limitation," you are correct. CableLabs refuses to allow two way boxes to run the software of the vendor or customer's choice. Were that not the case, TiVo's S3 could have been two way from day one. They even forbid UDCPs from having the hardware needed to do two way in the future from being in there, hence the need for an external box for the box.

At least it's USB..
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It's wierdo, not weirdo. Yes, I know that's not the 'proper' spelling of the similar english language word. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19965329 Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:08:38 EDT Re: Sure... We'll get right on that. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958899 AZwldcats : Correct... Hopefully OCAP (or whatever it is) will fix that]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958899 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:02:34 EDT Re: Sure... We'll get right on that. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958762 djrobx : Its too bad some of you have such trouble your cable company's CableCARD service. In my case, I bought my mother a Series 3 HD TiVo right when it came out. The cable guys (Comcast, at the time) came out with the two cards. They looked a bit sheepish when I told them they'd be installing to something other than a TV, but they went ahead and gave it a try. Numbers and such came up on the screen and they got on the phone with provisioners. The cards were activated and it was all good to go in less than 30 minutes without a single hitch. It's worked solidly for a over a year now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958762 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:39:30 EDT Re: Sure... We'll get right on that. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958627 unoriginal : Tivos only work as a one way device with the cablecards. Thats why even with this external dongle Tivo users with cable still wont get On Demand or PPV channels. Just the SDV HD ones that people seem to want the most.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958627 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:20:47 EDT Re: Sure... We'll get right on that. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958518 AZwldcats :
said by antonio010 See Profile :

So you exclaim how the cable cards are supposed to remove the need for a box, yet complain that it doesn't work in your tivo box. Oh the irony.

The new multistream cards are supposed to be 2 way. However, I don't know if any MSO has enabled that feature.
ALL cable cards are 2 way.... But there is no Equipment that takes cable cards that is two way.... It is a Equipment limitation, not a cable card limitation....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958518 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:06:42 EDT Re: Sure... We'll get right on that. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958516 banditws6 : It took about three weeks to get the CableCARDs working in my TiVo HD as well (I'm also a Comcast customer) for no other reason than the fact that, in my area, Comcast does not know how to properly deal with CableCARDs. That, and the fact that their billing system imposes such restrictions on the authorization and use of the cards that any minor problem can result in the need for a tech to come out and replace the card entirely.

The process should be as simple as having the customer pick up cards, call a provisioning number at Comcast and read the technician the card ID and host ID values. Unfortunately you could call Comcast half a dozen times and never get anyone who understands CableCARDs.

You're right in that Comcast does not want to do any more than the minimum necessary to support CableCARD devices. There is really no reason for them to, after all. They make their money from DVR rentals, and from their On-Demand offerings which CableCARD devices cannot utilize. Because CableCARD customers are a very small fraction of the total customer footprint, they feel it's no skin off their nose if they treat that small fraction like crap. It doesn't excuse them, but I can understand it.

As such, sad to say, I can only recommend CableCARD devices like a TiVo to people who really, really hate the Comcast DVR (like me) and really, really have the determination and patience necessary to work with the cable company until everything is up and running...which could take anywhere from fifteen minutes to several weeks, if not months.

Comcast isn't yet employing SDV technology in my area, but I'm glad to see the SDV-enabling device is already in testing. Too bad it has to be so big, but that's probably because speed to market dictated that existing enclosure tooling be used.

Despite the rigmarole I went through to get it working, I am much, much happier with my TiVo HD than I was with my Comcast HD DVR.
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"I'll follow the law until it's just stupid." -Ted Nugent]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958516 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:06:17 EDT Re: Sure... We'll get right on that. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958445 antonio010 : So you exclaim how the cable cards are supposed to remove the need for a box, yet complain that it doesn't work in your tivo box. Oh the irony.

The new multistream cards are supposed to be 2 way. However, I don't know if any MSO has enabled that feature.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958445 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:56:31 EDT Sure... We'll get right on that. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958375 svajo : Geeze. I've just spent a month trying to get Comcast to get the cablecards working correctly in my TIVO. I can't imagine them adding another box. Wasn't the whole point of the cablecards to avoid another cable box? The cable companies will drag their feet with this adapter solution, just as they have with the implementation of cablecards. Cablecards were mandated, and they've made it clear that they intend to meet only the minimum standard of service required by law. They have no incentive to make it work smoothly. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19958375 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:46:02 EDT