Re: Comcast responds in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19768771 en Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:24:25 EDT Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:24:25 EDT Re: Comcast responds http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19774167 lesopp : It would be interesting to see bittorrent modify their application so that the packets appear to be VoIP, using the same UDP ports as RTP with the DiffSrvices field set to express forwarding.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19774167 Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:20:32 EDT Re: Comcast responds http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19771551 Camelot One :
said by Cabal See Profile :

The loophole that allows for network engineers to do their jobs by managing their network? I'm amazed at the short-sightedness of people advocating a flat, unmanaged, unQoS'd Internet.
I am not one of them. I would have no problem with Comcast CAPPING the bandwidth for certain protocols, it's this total block that I have objection to. (upstream or down, a block is a block, and a delay is a block, if the "delayed" traffic never gets to it's desination)
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Don't get me wrong I disagree with them doing this, and orignally their sandvine implementation was not used for this and was actually used to help customers maintain speeds, prioritize certain traffic such as XBL, VOIP, etc.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19770095 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:18:20 EDT Re: Comcast responds http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19769824 jjeffeory :
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

And Comcast walks right thru the FCC loophole. Nothing will change.
Nor should it. They (ISP's) aren't in business to provide some sort of perceived 'God given right' to full on 24/7 internet access. Especially to something as downright egregious as bittorrent.
They're not the Internet police or the government. And what people use on their connection is none of their business. Bittorrent is not an illegal piece of software to use.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19769824 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:29:53 EDT Re: Comcast responds http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19769238 espaeth :
said by Camelot One See Profile :

If I am paying for the connection, and choose to use it to download perfectly legal content via bit torrent, where exactly is Comcast's right to block that option? And I say block, because thats exactly what their "delay" does.
They don't block your ability, as a Comcast customer, to download. They limit the number of upload connections their users able to establish to minimize upstream channel congestion.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19769238 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:00:37 EDT Re: Comcast responds http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19769172 Camelot One :
said by JasonD :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

And Comcast walks right thru the FCC loophole. Nothing will change.
Nor should it. They (ISP's) aren't in business to provide some sort of perceived 'God given right' to full on 24/7 internet access. Especially to something as downright egregious as bittorrent.
If I am paying for the connection, and choose to use it to download perfectly legal content via bit torrent, where exactly is Comcast's right to block that option? And I say block, because thats exactly what their "delay" does.

Keep in mind, this is all just an outsider's opinion. I would never use Comcrap, even if dial up was the only alternative. Anyone who hates their customers as much as they do has no place in my home.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

And Comcast walks right thru the FCC loophole. Nothing will change.
Nor should it. They (ISP's) aren't in business to provide some sort of perceived 'God given right' to full on 24/7 internet access. Especially to something as downright egregious as bittorrent.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19768934 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:21:36 EDT Re: Comcast responds http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19768771 Camelot One : Can you even call it a delay, when it never gets passed?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19768771 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:55:17 EDT Comcast responds http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19768749 TKJunkMail : »news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080109/tc_···fcc_dc_1
Comcast Corp said on Wednesday that it would cooperate with an investigation by U.S. regulators into how it manages some Internet traffic on its network, but again denied it had interfered with file-sharing services.

"Comcast does not, has not, and will not block any Web sites or online applications, including peer-to-peer services," David Cohen, a Comcast executive vice president, said in a statement on Wednesday.

Comcast said it used bandwidth management technology on its network that can slow delivery of files, but that it would not block them outright.

"We believe our practices are in accordance with the FCC's policy statement on the Internet, where the Commission clearly recognized that reasonable network management is necessary for the good of all customers," Cohen said.
And Comcast walks right thru the FCC loophole. Nothing will change.
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