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EUS
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cogentco traffic

Why is the routing going through Cogentco?????


diskace
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said by EUS:

Why is the routing going through Cogentco?????
Hi EUS,

Cogentco was there for the past year in the BGP network. Is there a problem with one of their route ? We have multiple links with other provider as well.

Best regards, DiskACE


EUS
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Well, it's wierd, up until lately my traffic has been routed through vtl, peer, etc, but now solely through cogentco. Premium routings a thing of the past?



diskace
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said by EUS:

Well, it's wierd, up until lately my traffic has been routed through vtl, peer, etc, but now solely through cogentco. Premium routings a thing of the past?
»bgplay.routeviews.org/bgplay/

You can check the history of a CIDR advertised path from there. Is there a problem with the cogent link ?

Thanks.


EUS
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Cogent links invariably always have problems.
I chose you guys primarily for the peer link, which became something other link.
I don't know what the link does, but my question remains, is cogent going to be the primary permanant routing? I hope not.
To get to NYC using cogent, now I travel from mtl to albany to boston to nyc.



EUS
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reply to diskace
Hello?
Are we going to see the premium routing come back?



diskace
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said by EUS:

Hello?
Are we going to see the premium routing come back?
Hello EUS sorry for the delay. I tried talking with norm but haven't had the chance yet. I will keep you updated as soon as possible.

Best regards, DiskACE


EUS
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Cogentco sucks dick:
traceroute to (63.251.20.73), 30 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.409 ms 0.356 ms 0.324 ms
2 as3menmtl02.3menatwork.com (64.235.192.30) 11.986 ms 8.049 ms 8.844 ms
3 42-195-0-72-ppp.3menatwork.com (72.0.195.42) 8.687 ms elc1-as3menmtl02.3menatwork.com (64.235.194.253) 8.492 ms 42-195-0-72-ppp.3menatwork.com (72.0.195.42) 8.730 ms
4 * gtrunk-rs3menmtl01.3menatwork.com (72.0.192.5) 8.543 ms 9.245 ms
5 * ge-mtl01-ca01.3menatwork.com (64.235.210.222) 24.385 ms *
6 te4-2.ccr01.ymq01.atlas.cogentco.com (38.99.196.217) 9.540 ms * 9.659 ms
7 te4-1.mpd01.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.0.18) 87.244 ms 174.176 ms 206.937 ms
8 * te7-3.mpd01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.57) 17.341 ms 17.503 ms
9 te8-3.mpd03.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.202) 39.480 ms * *
10 * vl3492.mpd01.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.14) 23.059 ms *
11 gblx.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.11.138) 20.987 ms * *
12 67.17.192.54 (67.17.192.54) 29.006 ms 29.414 ms 28.550 ms
13 border2.pc2-bbnet2.ext1.nym.pnap.net (216.52.95.79) 28.930 ms 29.130 ms *
14 c-63-251-20-73.internap-nyc.nuclearfallout.net (63.251.20.73) 29.171 ms 28.979 ms 29.092 ms
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EUS
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reply to diskace
So, whats up? I'm believe I've been more than patient, and still await your response.



diskace
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reply to EUS

said by EUS:

Cogentco sucks dick:
traceroute to (63.251.20.73), 30 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.409 ms 0.356 ms 0.324 ms
2 as3menmtl02.3menatwork.com (64.235.192.30) 11.986 ms 8.049 ms 8.844 ms
3 42-195-0-72-ppp.3menatwork.com (72.0.195.42) 8.687 ms elc1-as3menmtl02.3menatwork.com (64.235.194.253) 8.492 ms 42-195-0-72-ppp.3menatwork.com (72.0.195.42) 8.730 ms
4 * gtrunk-rs3menmtl01.3menatwork.com (72.0.192.5) 8.543 ms 9.245 ms
5 * ge-mtl01-ca01.3menatwork.com (64.235.210.222) 24.385 ms *
6 te4-2.ccr01.ymq01.atlas.cogentco.com (38.99.196.217) 9.540 ms * 9.659 ms
7 te4-1.mpd01.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.0.18) 87.244 ms 174.176 ms 206.937 ms
8 * te7-3.mpd01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.57) 17.341 ms 17.503 ms
9 te8-3.mpd03.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.202) 39.480 ms * *
10 * vl3492.mpd01.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.14) 23.059 ms *
11 gblx.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.11.138) 20.987 ms * *
12 67.17.192.54 (67.17.192.54) 29.006 ms 29.414 ms 28.550 ms
13 border2.pc2-bbnet2.ext1.nym.pnap.net (216.52.95.79) 28.930 ms 29.130 ms *
14 c-63-251-20-73.internap-nyc.nuclearfallout.net (63.251.20.73) 29.171 ms 28.979 ms 29.092 ms
I am still waiting for some news on that. But how 28-29 ms is bad anyway ?

With our peer1 route it is not better.

mtr -c 10 -r 63.251.20.73
HOST: Router Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. 69.28.239.254 0.0% 10 1.2 1.5 1.1 4.5 1.1
2. ATM-OC3POS1-0.gw-exchange.electronicbox.net 0.0% 10 2.3 2.4 2.0 4.0 0.6
3. oc48-po6-0.mtl-bvh-cor-1.pee 0.0% 10 2.3 2.2 2.0 2.4 0.1
4. oc48-po5-0.tor-151f7-cor-2.p 0.0% 10 10.2 10.3 9.9 10.7 0.3
5. oc48-po4-0.nyc-telx-dis-2.pe 0.0% 10 20.8 24.0 20.5 45.8 8.0
6. oc48-po3-0.nyc-75bre-dis-1.p 0.0% 10 15.9 15.9 15.7 16.4 0.2
7. ge-6-16.car1.NewYork2.Level3 0.0% 10 16.0 16.3 15.8 16.8 0.3
8. ae-34-89.car4.NewYork1.Level 0.0% 10 16.4 16.4 16.3 16.8 0.2
9. 4.68.63.158 0.0% 10 314.9 59.4 16.0 314.9 94.4
10. te8-1-10G.ar4.NYC1.gblx.net 0.0% 10 16.2 16.9 15.9 22.7 2.1
11. 67.17.192.54 0.0% 10 16.2 16.4 16.1 17.0 0.3
12. border2.pc2-bbnet2.ext1.nym. 0.0% 10 101.5 45.2 16.3 133.9 47.1
13. c-63-251-20-73.internap-nyc. 0.0% 10 28.6 25.0 16.3 70.9 16.9

Not very


EUS
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Hi Diskace, thanks for the response.
I guess part of it is psychological, as marketing says "premium routing, pay a bit more per month for it", then you go and switch off the premium routing without warning, and have not adjusted the pricing to reflect it.
Extra hops, response times fluctuate drastically from hop to hop.
I don't think I'm being overly sensitive.



diskace
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said by EUS:

Hi Diskace, thanks for the response.
I guess part of it is psychological, as marketing says "premium routing, pay a bit more per month for it", then you go and switch off the premium routing without warning, and have not adjusted the pricing to reflect it.
Extra hops, response times fluctuate drastically from hop to hop.
I don't think I'm being overly sensitive.
Hi EUS, cogentco is not the only transit in the BGP neighbourhood that we provide. BGP should normally take the fastest route. In your case cogentco is the fastest available path among available paths. I am putting more pressure on 3men to bring back some transit that were dropped during the datacenter switch.


EUS
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Thanks Diskace,
Off-topic a bit, I'm having troubles from home out to the world haven't seen this before...
traceroute to (63.251.20.73), 30 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.455 ms 0.366 ms 0.324 ms
2 * * *
3 * * *
4 * gtrunk-rs3menmtl01.3menatwork.com (72.0.192.5) 257.324 ms *
5 ge-mtl01-ca01.3menatwork.com (64.235.210.222) 14.718 ms * *
6 * * *
7 * * te4-1.mpd01.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.0.18) 104.930 ms
8 te7-3.mpd01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.57) 155.458 ms * *
9 * * *
10 * * *
11 * *
Any ideas?

Tracroutes inbound are ok, but go through bell's network.



diskace
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pppoe gateway ?



EUS
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Errr, are you asking about my router, or your gateway?



diskace
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said by EUS:

Errr, are you asking about my router, or your gateway?
what is your pppoe gateway ip (our gateway)


EUS
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It's a guess here, but hop 2 of above tracroute?
64.235.192.30



diskace
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the hop is not shown in your traceroute. Normally it is hop 2.

So now it is working ?
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EUS
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Still no love for outbound.
Very strange. I will reset all on my end after work. i'm not sure that it will help....

1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 0.472 ms 0.359 ms 0.328 ms
2 * * *
3 * elc1-as3menmtl02.3menatwork.com (64.235.194.253) 8.939 ms 42-195-0-72-ppp.3menatwork.com (72.0.195.42) 8.741 ms
4 * gtrunk-rs3menmtl01.3menatwork.com (72.0.192.5) 8.316 ms 9.428 ms
5 ge-mtl01-ca01.3menatwork.com (64.235.210.222) 21.491 ms * 16.216 ms
6 * * *
7 * * te4-1.mpd01.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.0.18) 9.078 ms
8 * * *
9 * te8-3.mpd03.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.202) 282.859 ms *
10 * * *
11 gblx.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.11.138) 22.339 ms 21.019 ms 21.077 ms
12 * * *
13 border2.pc2-bbnet2.ext1.nym.pnap.net (216.52.95.79) 29.753 ms 30.108 ms *
14 c-63-251-20-73.internap-nyc.nuclearfallout.net (63.251.20.73) 30.012 ms * *



diskace
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Please verify if you don't have any faireagle script in the http source code when you go on google.ca/.com

Thanks


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