The Beer
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Omaha, NE
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| Where is Omaha?
You know I look at that first cities list and it makes me SICK!!
Qwest files for AND GETS forbearance in Omaha because of the Cox competition and then from what I see here gives up.
What a steaming pile of ****!
They have run McLeod out of the market because of their new copper rent and now put upgrading their own network on the back burner.
I was talking with someone from Iowa Telecomm the other day about ethernet over copper in Des Moines at $200/meg symmetrical and NOBODY can offer that but Cox because Qwest won't do it themselves and won't let anyone else do it either with their copper. Cox gets $2300 for 6MB
It's funny, in 1994 Qwest picked the fight with Cox to offer TV and now Cox kicks their a** to the point they will not even fight.
It's sad. |
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Jonbo298
join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA
| Qwest has pretty much lost the Omaha market and they aren't really in the mood to try and gain it back. The commercials are pretty accurate by cox saying 8 out of every 10 households in Omaha has Cox.
Granted, they could go balls out and wire up FTTN everywhere in Omaha and launch a huge advertising spree to get back all those customers they lost, but they are taking the lazy way out and just trying to keep the other markets. |
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djweis
join:2006-04-02
West Des Moines, IA | reply to The Beer
We're doing metro ethernet over copper in Des Moines, there's nothing the local monopoly can do to prohibit uses of the copper as long as you aren't a hazard or interfering with other circuits. |
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The Beer
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| said by djweis  :We're doing metro ethernet over copper in Des Moines, there's nothing the local monopoly can do to prohibit uses of the copper as long as you aren't a hazard or interfering with other circuits. I agree they can't prohibit however in the case of "The Omaha Order" they can make it darn hard.
You have done some really cool things there in Des Moines however why would anyone invest in Omaha with the climate the way it is now. It's a shame. Would you bring your RT's out to the neighborhoods here?
Rumor has it the next gen network will NOT be open to Qhost, I don't know if that's true, you would know better than me.
The loss of McLeod is REALLY going to hurt me in Omaha, and I will more than likely end up buying from you in Des Moines to make up for how mad I will be at McLeod when they bail. There will also be the massive hole left because of Lighthouse bailing with McLeod.
Omaha will soon be a duopoly, Pinpoint bought a bunch of McLeods assets in Omaha however they still have no last mile. |
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djweis
join:2006-04-02
West Des Moines, IA
| You can still get DS0 UNE loops, if you're good you can get a lot done with those.
I'm not sure that Q accomplished anything at all in Omaha, the only competitors that pulled out are the ones that were purchasing elements from them, the competitor that was soundly beating them has their own network entirely.
I didn't realize that McLeod was pulling out that completely. Who is Pinpoint?
The loss of Lighthouse is more addition by subtraction  |
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The Beer
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| reply to Jonbo298
It's a one way fight.
And when they do fight back it's all in the details...
Cox touts their 128/128 Cox Super Value Internet @ $19.99 then compares it to the 1.5/896 Qwest has for $26.99.
Cox's $26.99 plan is 1.5/256.
You can't fight the details and $19.99 is less than $26.99, but I would be mad if my EVDO phone had 128/128 speed let alone my cable modem.
It's all in the details.
I had been on DirecTV for 4 years and switched back to Cox in the past few weeks, I had no idea they did so many self inserts of their own ads. It seems like every 10 minutes there is a bash Qwest ad.
I miss the old USWest when it comes to being innovative.
The Beer = Council Bluffs DSL Subscriber #2 |
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