Matt
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Re: Cable fan boys....
I didn't say they WOULD lower prices ... I said they COULD. It's the only thing I can see them doing because even with DOCSIS 3.0 ... they won't be able to match most FiOS offerings.
They could also just not care. I have a BPON fiber connection from a regional ILEC and Time Warner hasn't raised the speeds nor lowered their pricing to compete. |
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DaveNJ
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| said by Matt  :I didn't say they WOULD lower prices ... I said they COULD. It's the only thing I can see them doing because even with DOCSIS 3.0 ... they won't be able to match most FiOS offerings. They could also just not care. I have a BPON fiber connection from a regional ILEC and Time Warner hasn't raised the speeds nor lowered their pricing to compete. But most cable still have a bit a leeway, even with docsis 1, they can do 10/10. With DS3, they can do 100/100. But the market hasnt drawn speeds that high yet. I would be happy if 25/25 were standard its more then i will ever need, and i would rather a low latency network, then to 100/100 high latency
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AZwldcats
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These 15/15 or 20/20 tiers are going to be attractive to 5-10% of the users only....
Everyone else, the casual family using the internet, moms and pops looking at grandkids pictures aren't going to care...
Plus it will get all the "heavy" users off of cable so that it is more enjoyable for the rest of us.... |
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Matt
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said by DaveNJ :said by Matt :I didn't say they WOULD lower prices ... I said they COULD. It's the only thing I can see them doing because even with DOCSIS 3.0 ... they won't be able to match most FiOS offerings. They could also just not care. I have a BPON fiber connection from a regional ILEC and Time Warner hasn't raised the speeds nor lowered their pricing to compete. But most cable still have a bit a leeway, even with docsis 1, they can do 10/10. With DS3, they can do 100/100. But the market hasnt drawn speeds that high yet. I would be happy if 25/25 were standard its more then i will ever need, and i would rather a low latency network, then to 100/100 high latency DOCSIS 1 can't do 10Mbps to an individual cable modem unless they put an individual cable modem on its own node. The maximum the Business Class folks even offer over a cable modem is 2Mbps here. If you want more upstream you have to purchase fiber from them.
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backness
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halfband
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said by Matt :DOCSIS 1 can't do 10Mbps to an individual cable modem unless they put an individual cable modem on its own node. The maximum the Business Class folks even offer over a cable modem is 2Mbps here. If you want more upstream you have to purchase fiber from them. Docsis 1 is 10Mbps per channel. There can be multiple channels on a node. The channels are further split by slots, but of course that gets into shared bandwidth.
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Matt
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| said by halfband :said by Matt :DOCSIS 1 can't do 10Mbps to an individual cable modem unless they put an individual cable modem on its own node. The maximum the Business Class folks even offer over a cable modem is 2Mbps here. If you want more upstream you have to purchase fiber from them. Docsis 1 is 10Mbps per channel. There can be multiple channels on a node. The channels are further split by slots, but of course that gets into shared bandwidth. You are correct, my apologies for using the incorrect terminology.
They still aren't going to allocate an entire channel for one customer ... even with oversubscription it's doubtful.
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Ebolla
join:2005-09-28
Dracut, MA | reply to backness
he said attractive to a small % of people. he didnt say that a higher speed is not needed or unusable. |
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ashworth
join:2001-10-06
Pittsburgh, PA
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The strategic point is that VZ can do it, and cable can not within the foreseeable future. This is a marketing ploy to cater to the 5-6% of actual users that will upgrade to the service, hopefully to improve that number to say 15-20%. This symmetrical service is designed to differentiate itself from cable or anything else for that matter....I think it does that. |
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maximvs64
join:2007-11-13
Davidsonville, MD
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To further your point, most people would be content with 1.5/768. People hear the speeds and want it whether or not they actually need it. Bragging rights at the water cooler kind of thing. Comcast advertisements compare speeds with DSL all the time in my area. Most of my neighbors have switched over to FiOS since it became available recently and maybe 10% of them at best use anywhere that bandwidth. |
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