Ilec enforcing abuse rules against Clecs in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19386782 en Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:57:42 EDT Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:57:42 EDT Re: Ilec enforcing abuse rules aaginst Clecs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19392305 yabos : Well, I agree that the 1.50/GB is a cash grab. The bandwidth from Canadian ISPs isn't an import. It's not like we're importing GBs from the states.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19392305 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 10:19:33 EDT Re: Ilec enforcing abuse rules aaginst Clecs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19391178 anon : I've been trying to tell them this all along. But the shills dream up some spiel of cockamamie malarkey to try to make it sound like i don't know what i'm talking about when in fact the converse is true.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19391178 Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:01:20 EDT Re: Ilec enforcing abuse rules against Clecs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19391176 Snickerdo :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Sounds like Bell Sympatico(like a U.S. Ilec) is trying to enforce their abuse rules on the Canadian equivalent of any Clecs using their infrastructure. I'll bet this goes to the courts pretty quickly.
The CRTC will stop Bell from refusing to service specific addresses to third-party ISPs dead in their tracks. Bell will most certainly not be allowed to do this for very long, if at all. The CRTC and Bell aren't exactly on friendly terms, you can bet that the CRTC has just been waiting for the moment to lay some smackdown.

As for the connection between the DSLAM and the ISP, the ISP pays for them, not Bell. The ISP can also choose whether they use Ethernet or ATM, and the different levels of DSLAM connectivity are priced accordingly. Bell can't justify refusing access based on this, because it's the ISPs who are paying for the access and having to deal with the congestion.
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»www.p2pnet.net/story/13883]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19387572 Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:00:14 EDT Re: Ilec enforcing abuse rules aaginst Clecs http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19387037 en102 : Well, then again, it is Canada.
With the Canadian dollar being very high against the U.S., pricing on bandwidth should be dropping.
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