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BDF

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reply to gweeper
Re: [northeast] DNS hijacking in effect (new)

When Verizon's FIOS interface, in my case the ActionTec is default configured, the dns settings are automatically determined, and as gweeper notes, replaces 404 with an advertisement page.

At the bottom of the advertisement page are directions that purport to allow a return to 404 functionality (essentially by hardcoding the dns in the routers to the values that were automatically configured, except the last octet changed to 14). This chnage provides a different advertisement page, but not the simple 404 report.

I evaluated the opendns offerenings as well, that service also appears to server up short ad pages instead of simple 404. Further, opendns documents suggest that they achive their funding to offer the free dns service by serving up the ads.

Bottom line, Verizon's new default, Verizon's work around, and opendns all provide ads now.

Bruce


noping
no route to host
Premium
join:2007-01-09
·Verizon FIOS

xxx.xxx.xxx.14 (the opt-out address) works just fine here. No ads, default behaviour.

Plenty of DNS alternatives if you don't like Verizon/OpenDNS, use 4.2.2.1-4.2.2.6.

That, or roll your own: »ntcanuck.com/downloads.htm


KA3SGM
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join:2006-01-17
West Chester, PA
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·Cricket Broadband
·Verizon FIOS

said by noping See Profile :

xxx.xxx.xxx.14 (the opt-out address) works just fine here. No ads, default behaviour.

Plenty of DNS alternatives if you don't like Verizon/OpenDNS, use 4.2.2.1-4.2.2.6.

That, or roll your own: »ntcanuck.com/downloads.htm
NOPING, YES, I COMPLETELY AGREE, use the Level3 DNS servers, they are faster, more reliable, and won't redirect their SPAM pages to your IP address.

I typically use the 4.2.2.2, and 4.2.2.3 DNS servers, and have never suffered a long or re-directed response.

OPEN DNS still offers you up to a SPAMED results page, if you don't have the precise address you were trying to reach.
--
"Lithium is no longer available on credit"


KCrimson
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join:2001-02-25
Brooklyn, NY
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FIOS

I think the directions that FiOS is giving to change the default DNS server are flawed. I didn't get any change until I edited the Broadband (in my case /MOCA, in others /Ethernet depending on how your router was hooked up) setting, NOT the Home/Office DNS setting, as the directions say. I'm wondering if I should leave BOTH sets of DNS settings to the 4.2.2.2/4.2.2.3 servers, or whether I should leave the Home/Office side back to the automatic position. Anyone care to give insight?

gweeper

join:2002-01-04
Southborough, MA

You have to change it in multiple spots and boy is that actiontec interface lame. Userid that works for the pointy-clicky goop doesn't seem to be effective way to gain access to the CLI.

Of course once wrestling my way through the interface I changed to a server I run and one of the L3 anycasts. Use whatever you like but MEASURE the path first (traceroute at least). Folks saying "everyone should use FOO" are ignoring that topology matters. The reason service providers deploy DNS resolvers near customers is to be sure lookups -part of any transaction- do not slow down applications. Using any distant DNS servers is introducing other variables, possible outages, etc.

The 'opt-out' garbage in this case [paxfire, it seems; www.paxfire.com to direct additional comments] is related only to web browsers. Glad they have unmolested servers available. DNS is basic plumbing and not a revenue stream.
Your best bet, if you don't use bad software, is to deploy a local resolver yourself.

Coffee, local resolver, get on with my day.


rtcy
FACTS only please
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Beverly Hills, CA
·Verizon west (ex G..
·Verizon FIOS


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reply to KA3SGM
said by KA3SGM See Profile :

said by noping See Profile :

xxx.xxx.xxx.14 (the opt-out address) works just fine here. No ads, default behaviour.

Plenty of DNS alternatives if you don't like Verizon/OpenDNS, use 4.2.2.1-4.2.2.6.

That, or roll your own: »ntcanuck.com/downloads.htm
NOPING, YES, I COMPLETELY AGREE, use the Level3 DNS servers, they are faster, more reliable, and won't redirect their SPAM pages to your IP address.

I typically use the 4.2.2.2, and 4.2.2.3 DNS servers, and have never suffered a long or re-directed response.

OPEN DNS still offers you up to a SPAMED results page, if you don't have the precise address you were trying to reach.
I agree and will ad this, ntcanuck's treedns is a caching server so once it get's a name it stores it and next time you don't need to lookit up it get's it from it's cache, i've used since Leo Laporte on techtv turned us on to it.

hey ka3sgm it's a shame the lithium is no longer on credit I can't live without it
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