Great... sorta in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19237614 en Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:31:37 EDT Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:31:37 EDT Re: Great... sorta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19240987 benc : Thanks.

I forgot that the minimum wage increased from $5.15/hr.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19240987 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:52:35 EDT Re: Great... sorta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19240981 BF69 :
said by benc See Profile :

I suggest a minimum speed of 768kbps, and a maximum monthly cost of say, 15 x Min. Wage. That figure would currently come out to $77.25/mo.
Redo your math, 15 X $5.85 is $87.75]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19240981 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:45:53 EDT Re: Great... sorta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19239057 tad2020 : An OC3 in so. California, 2 blocks away from from a Level 3 interchange, is over $1000/mo non-wholesale.

Some one that works "at" my office works from her home in Montana, she can get a 10Mbps cable connection for under $49/mo while I can't even get cable TV service at the office in one of the "technology capital" of Orange county, go figure.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19239057 Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:49:34 EDT Re: Great... sorta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19238396 benc :
said by Neyland85 See Profile :

So what exactly is the definition of broadband then?
I don't know, and that's what's bothersome.

There not only has to be a minimum transfer rate requirement, but there needs to be a price requirement as well.

I suggest a minimum speed of 768kbps, and a maximum monthly cost of say, 15 x Min. Wage. That figure would currently come out to $77.25/mo. There also needs to be a latency requirement, and a requirement of the minimum percentage of street addresses that have access.

Why all these requirements?

SPEED:
384kbps DSL currently fits the guidelines, but it's hardly what I consider broadband. 768k is barely there, and even that will seem slow.

PRICE:
Suppose I live in Dinkyville, WY or SmallTown, MT. No offense to Wyoming or Montana residents of course. Then suppose I was loaded with money and financed the build-out of an OC3 line out to my house. Then, according to the present guidelines, I would be the one house with a connection faster than 200kbps, and then the zip code will "have broadband." Thing is, an OC3 costs far more than $100/mo.

LATENCY:
Without a latency requirement, anywhere with EDGE access counts since it's *theoretically* faster than 200kbps. Again, no latency requirement means the ability to use satellite Internet counts as broadband. Satellite Internet also sometimes fails the price requirement.

MINIMUM PERCENTAGE OF STREET ADDRESSES:
I think this speaks for itself. Going back to my previous example of the OC3, it would mean that the zip code is "broadband ready," even if a next door neighbor can't pay for the connection. How "broadband ready" does the zip code look to average people in that zip code?

Of course, I don't really have an OC3, though I wish I did. I've always considered small-town living as very expensive since A) you have to drive long distances to do anything (time, maybe gas), and B) needing a T1 since DSL and Cable probably won't be available. Locally available goods will also be expensive due to transportation costs.

Thankfully, where I live can't be considered really rural, although it's the most rural area I've ever lived in.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19238396 Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:59:32 EDT Re: Great... sorta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19238273 lastmile : I wonder if they take latency into consideration? I certainly hope so.

Although you can acceptable bandwidth on Satellite, the high ping times defeat many applications suited for Broadband such as gaming, voip, vpn, etc.

High latency shouldn't be considered broadband. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19238273 Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:41:14 EDT Re: Great... sorta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19237928 sirwoogie : Oye! Then this stops before it starts. If you have no bar to measure to, then how do you measure success?


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Guess I have to go read this thing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19237928 Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:46:43 EDT Re: Great... sorta http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19237694 TK Junk Mail :
said by Neyland85 See Profile :

So what exactly is the definition of broadband then?
The original draft was a MINIMUM 2/1 mbps. The marked up final committee draft removed any mention of broadband speeds.
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