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RangerTX
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Re: They will lose customers soon

said by ydoucare See Profile :

So, because you pay for the service, it's ok for your infected computer to waste their bandwidth for malicious purposes? If you keep your system clean, like you should, you shouldn't have any problems. So what's the big deal?
Isp violating my privacy but seeing what is coming out of my computer. Most ips do not monitor virusses, spywares. So what do u think most people will do? That is right switch to another isp and continue on surfing the net


N O Y B
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Forest Grove, OR
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Every web site you visit sees what comes out of your computer. And many routers along the way. If ISP sets up a few "dummy" systems that log access and your system accesses them, either by bot or by you. It is not a violation of your privacy. Get a clue or shut up and stop fear mongering about something you obviously know nothing.


Jafo232
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said by RangerTX See Profile :

Isp violating my privacy but seeing what is coming out of my computer. Most ips do not monitor virusses, spywares. So what do u think most people will do? That is right switch to another isp and continue on surfing the net
I hate to tell you this, but your every move is logged by your ISP, in fact, I believe regulation demands it.

Your information is already there. Chances are, your TOS with your ISP allows this.

98% of those on the Net have no idea how to safely run their PC without it getting infected, and out of those, 99% would never know about the infection unless told.

I'm sorry, but if your walking around in public with puss filled sores, delirious, with your skin turning pink, covered with a rash, I think the public has a right to quarantine you for smallpox.. No difference with electronic infections..
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RangerTX
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said by Jafo232 See Profile :

said by RangerTX See Profile :

Isp violating my privacy but seeing what is coming out of my computer. Most ips do not monitor virusses, spywares. So what do u think most people will do? That is right switch to another isp and continue on surfing the net
I hate to tell you this, but your every move is logged by your ISP, in fact, I believe regulation demands it.

Your information is already there. Chances are, your TOS with your ISP allows this.

98% of those on the Net have no idea how to safely run their PC without it getting infected, and out of those, 99% would never know about the infection unless told.

I'm sorry, but if your walking around in public with puss filled sores, delirious, with your skin turning pink, covered with a rash, I think the public has a right to quarantine you for smallpox.. No difference with electronic infections..
You must be living outside us as i don't know of any regulation that requires ips to collect data on you. My isp is not collecting data, they have specifically stated that in the forum after at&t said they will


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said by RangerTX See Profile :

My isp is not collecting data, they have specifically stated that in the forum after at&t said they will
Your ISP lied. You better go switch to another.

Hey a technician was just running a network sniffer in the data center at your ISP while troubleshooting packet storm caused by a few thousand bots, and guess what, she captured some packets of that porn site you just visited.

You probably should go switch to a different ISP right now so this does not happen again.


Jafo232
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said by RangerTX See Profile :

You must be living outside us as i don't know of any regulation that requires ips to collect data on you. My isp is not collecting data, they have specifically stated that in the forum after at&t said they will
Inside the US.. See this:

»www.news.com/My-brief-career-as-···267.html

»www.news.com/Your-ISP-as-Net-wat···649.html

Besides, ALL ISP's use logging just to protect themselves legally, and to protect their network. Seriously, if you don't understand that, you haven't a clue.

And your ISP's AUP clearly states:

quote:
Using the Services for any activity which adversely affects the ability of other people or systems to use DSLExtreme’s services or the Internet. This includes "denial of service" (DoS) attacks against another network host or individual user. Interference with or disruption of other network users, network services or network equipment is prohibited. It is the customer’s responsibility to ensure that their network is configured in a secure manner. A customer may not, through action or inaction, allow others to use their network for illegal or inappropriate actions. A customer may not permit their network, through action or inaction, to be configured in such a way that gives a third party the capability to use their network in an illegal or inappropriate manner.

»www.dslextreme.com/aup.php
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October 3rd, @03:02PM

reply to RangerTX
said by RangerTX See Profile :

said by ydoucare See Profile :

So, because you pay for the service, it's ok for your infected computer to waste their bandwidth for malicious purposes? If you keep your system clean, like you should, you shouldn't have any problems. So what's the big deal?
Isp violating my privacy but seeing what is coming out of my computer. Most ips do not monitor virusses, spywares. So what do u think most people will do? That is right switch to another isp and continue on surfing the net
lol, they're not sitting there in cubicles personally monitoring your traffic. This would obviously be an automated system that would only pick up malicious traffic, which is the entire purpose of the thing. I have to laugh at people who think everyone is out to get them. Seriously, think about it for 5 minutes.

Personally, i'd rather be with an ISP that is at least taking a proactive approach at keeping their network clean, while also helping educate the person harboring the infected machine.
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