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dcurrey
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How much did they keep.

Sprint settled for $30 million. Didn't mention how much they have been over charging us. My guess is they came out way ahead with this so called settlement.


retrogame

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Especially since it's $25 millions dollars of calling cards and $5 million in cash to the lawyers. The $25 million in calling cards is retail value, which means Sprint gets away with "paying" alot less to settle.


tommy13v
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And I certainly could care less about a calling card. I simply wouldn't even use it.


TKJunkMail
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Especially since it's $25 millions dollars of calling cards and $5 million in cash to the lawyers. The $25 million in calling cards is retail value, which means Sprint gets away with "paying" alot less to settle.
And the consumers in this case actually made out better than usual if the lawyers only got 16.7%. In class action lawsuits, the fees and especially the expenses make up a much larger percentage of the total award.

But the USF should just be ended. Being government controlled, it will never be fixed to the point where outright fraud isn't massive. Too little actually goes to why it was created. So, it is better that it be killed off and let the rural areas do the best they can. »Illegal USF Tax
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dentman42

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Wonder if calls made with the calling cards will get dropped as much as calls made with my Sprint PCS service did...

MGD
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Yes indeed, how many of these will end up being used, and Sprint's net cost will be considerably lower than that.

It is hard to find any class action settlement where the the victims didn't get tokens, and the lawyers got the cash.

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idjk

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Give me a billion and I will be happy to pay a 900 million fine!

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
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Except that CASH wise consumers got 0% and the lawyers got 100%. This is like getting a $100 apple gift card for paying $200's too much for your Iphone.


dvd536
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said by tommy13v See Profile :

And I certainly could care less about a calling card. I simply wouldn't even use it.
Specially with the fees they have.
Connect fee
Maintenance fee
Payphone surcharge
Max call length
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Needless to say it doesn't take long to chew through a typical phone card.
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Sprint is not the only calling card company that charges a pay phone surcharge. most if not all of them charge this along with a great deal of of them charge a connect fee. Most still round up to the nearest minute where a very few of them round up to the nearest 6seconds.


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said by retrogame See Profile :

Especially since it's $25 millions dollars of calling cards and $5 million in cash to the lawyers. The $25 million in calling cards is retail value, which means Sprint gets away with "paying" alot less to settle.
And the consumers in this case actually made out better than usual if the lawyers only got 16.7%. In class action lawsuits, the fees and especially the expenses make up a much larger percentage of the total award.

But the USF should just be ended. Being government controlled, it will never be fixed to the point where outright fraud isn't massive. Too little actually goes to why it was created. So, it is better that it be killed off and let the rural areas do the best they can. »Illegal USF Tax
Said by somebody who has no clue nor idea of the needs of rural and small town America. How about we rural areas cut off your food, water, electricity and other raw goods, and let you cities "do the best you can" ?
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said by RR Conductor See Profile :

Said by somebody who has no clue nor idea of the needs of rural and small town America. How about we rural areas cut off your food, water, electricity and other raw goods, and let you cities "do the best you can" ?
Notice they always throw in the personal attacks when they don't have a leg to stand on. The people in the cities pay market rates for those products without special taxes to help out. If rural areas want broadband don't expect usurious USF taxes to help out.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by RR Conductor See Profile :

Said by somebody who has no clue nor idea of the needs of rural and small town America. How about we rural areas cut off your food, water, electricity and other raw goods, and let you cities "do the best you can" ?
Notice they always throw in the personal attacks when they don't have a leg to stand on. The people in the cities pay market rates for those products without special taxes to help out. If rural areas want broadband don't expect usurious USF taxes to help out.
Every pays more than market rates for good, transport costs of those goods would be unimaginable without the boondoggle of its time, the Interstate system. The nation footed the bill to get rural goods to urban america, now it goes the other way. America pays to get urban services in rural America.

So because we don't live in urban America, we are lesser citizens? We don't deserve the same luxuries you get? That is what I read between the lines when I see the let them fend for themselves argument.
To have the same level of living we will get paid less, but pay more for the same services, probably of lesser quality (Satellite Broadband for example). Rarely do I argue for a more socialist POV, but we are not lesser citizens because of where we live, we deserve the same luxuries you do thus the USF is a necessary evil. We ourselves pay it too. The USF however does need a check and balance system, to monitor abuse. If need be, put people out in the field to check these area's to make sure the USF isn't being used for projects not meeting guidelines.

Although perhaps the tax code simplification through the FairTax would solve the entire USF debate.... Use some ex IRS workers to monitor the USF accounts.

Edit- Also the calling card to pay back affected users is a sham. How many people use calling cards anymore with so much of the nation having cell phones? Screw the cards, give rebate checks, because they took stole money, not minutes, from people....
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