thewolfman
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Re: Porn inside of Prisons
said by stevephl  :Simple fix, Remove all TV's and the cable from the prison (all prisons and jails)  I'd like to see you work as a corrections officer for a day in a jail that had the TV's removed. Actually, I don't think you would last past lunch...............
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TScheisskopf
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CoxCable4
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im suprised they got remotes. when I was in prison they confiscated everything. we had nothing metallic. |
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exocet_cm
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said by thewolfman :said by stevephl :Simple fix, Remove all TV's and the cable from the prison (all prisons and jails) I'd like to see you work as a corrections officer for a day in a jail that had the TV's removed. Actually, I don't think you would last past lunch............... I did... and it DID NOT WORK! What did the inmates do when there was no tv? Pissed off the guards (ie: us). Luckily it was an "experiment" in only one tier and not jail-wide. Needless to say TVs were brought back.
Corrections was hard, thank God I'm a patrolman and not a correctional officer anymore. Correctional officers have 100 percent of my respect over a patrol officer any day.
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said by CoxCable4 :im suprised they got remotes. when I was in prison they confiscated everything. we had nothing metallic. We actually controlled the television channels and would turn off the TV as punishment if the inmates got riled up.
That is surprising too, one more think to make a tattoo gun or shank out of.
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pnh102
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said by thewolfman :I'd like to see you work as a corrections officer for a day in a jail that had the TV's removed. It isn't going to take long for the cable company to fix this problem. Perhaps jails and prisons should just show off-air programming instead?
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KrK
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said by thewolfman :I'd like to see you work as a corrections officer for a day in a jail that had the TV's removed. Actually, I don't think you would last past lunch............... Couldn't carry enough ammunition, eh?
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stevephl
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The reality these are criminals who broke the law, believe me they can be controlled, put them in very small rooms, no communications between no bathrooms nothing and let them rot all day, no A/C, no heat. I have seen this method applied overseas and there were a lot more prisoners. Why let the prisoners run the place? It is time we slapped law breakers down as the low life's they are. People have been lead to believe the prisoners are the victims when in reality they are the opposite stop coddling these dredges of society. No Television period, no books, make them suffer in extremely harsh conditions maybe they will rethink their lives as evil doer's other wise they should them be removed permanently from society.
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stevephl
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Colorado Springs, CO | reply to CoxCable4
The way it should be then make prisoners pay back every penny of their stay after they are released from jail/prison. Don't like it? Don't do the crime simple as that |
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stevephl
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Colorado Springs, CO | reply to KrK
The correctional offers should have flooded the cell blocks with water until the miscreants were flooding belly up |
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KrK
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said by exocet_cm :I did... and it DID NOT WORK! What did the inmates do when there was no tv? Pissed off the guards (ie: us). Luckily it was an "experiment" in only one tier and not jail-wide. Needless to say TVs were brought back. While I understand what you are saying, it does beg the question of just who runs the prison? The Law, or the Lawless?
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fiberguy
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said by stevephl :The reality these are criminals who broke the law, believe me they can be controlled, put them in very small rooms, no communications between no bathrooms nothing and let them rot all day, no A/C, no heat. I have seen this method applied overseas and there were a lot more prisoners. Why let the prisoners run the place? It is time we slapped law breakers down as the low life's they are. People have been lead to believe the prisoners are the victims when in reality they are the opposite stop coddling these dredges of society. No Television period, no books, make them suffer in extremely harsh conditions maybe they will rethink their lives as evil doer's other wise they should them be removed permanently from society. What country do you live in?
This country, the land of the free, jails MORE PEOPLE per capita than do other countries. We jail people for parking tickets and personal domestic disputes. This country is hell bound over board in locking everyone up for spitting in the wrong directions sometimes.
I do agree there are A LOT of people in prison who do bad things.. but there really are two prisons.. there are prisons for lifers and they usually deserve what they got, and then there are people that are supposed to be in what has always been called "the department of CORRECTIONS"...
... corrections. A strange word used less often than "PRISON", right?
Can ANYONE tell me one prison that actually CORRECTS any behavior? ... or can anyone tell me how many people go in for small offenses and come out on the other end even worse off than before?
It's high time people like you learn that prison isn't "revenge"... we did away with that over a century or more ago.
I am by NO MEANS supporting the behavior of MOST of the people in there, but we are NOT, I repeat, NOT a country of sadistic bastards.. and I'm sorry if you take offense to this but the truth is that people like you are what tears down this country. We don't "get even"... they pay their time and we're supposed to be correcting behavior.
"Evil Doer's?" Are you F***ing kidding me with that? You G.W.'s long lost brother or something?
Not every single person in prison is guilty either.. mistakes DO happen.. and people who place these "evil doer's" in prison are sometimes the ones that need to be in those very prisons... or do you not realize that. Until the prison system is run properly and until we have proper checks in place to ensure that those wrongfully convicted are not.. we do NOT TORTURE inmates..
Do you want to know what you get from a society in which you praise and desire? You get the Taliban.. and as you can see, that society failed miserably.
Why don't you take a step back and re-visit yourself. I'm sure you're one of those people who call them self a true Patriotic American.. you're anything BUT. We have something called the Constitution and MOST of us live by it.. one of those rights we have as Americans is not to be treated with cruel and unusual punishment the very actions you condone.
You disgust me.
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fiberguy
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AS long as corruption exists on the side of the law, the lawless run it. Prison is a place to lock people up and CORRECT behavior.. even those in for life.
However, the environment created by the government, the turning of the backs by the guards for those that are weaker who need protection.. the LAW often empowers the lawless.
MUCH of my family is in civil service (law, fire, etc).. and even many of them believe that there are too many political deals going on and corruption CLEAR UP TO THE WARDENS.
In case anyone didn't notice.. almost an entire juvenile system in the south had to release most all inmates because of the corruption, abuse by guards who were clearly in the wrong, the rape that was over looked by the guards AND often participated by the guards... prison is no fun place.. and I tell ya, if I were in government as a Senator or Rep, I'd be pushing HARD AS HELL for prison reform so that it did what it's intention was and to attempt to eliminate the sometimes power hungry sick people that run them.
Prison, and I'm sure people her can second this, is a system that you want to stay away from. Even people in for the smallest offenses have their lives destroyed by it. It's a system that sucks people in for pretty much life. It ruins more than corrects, and there are plenty of people involved in running it that have napoleon complexes and should themselves be examined.
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TScheisskopf
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I don't agree with you very often, but I agree with everything you said here, foursquare. Creating a sub-civilization of people who have lived a chunk of their life cut off from all wider civilization and tormented every day sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.
And if the original correspondent, in this sub-thread, thinks it cannot happen to him, well...someone ain't payin' enough attention. |
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fiberguy
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said by stevephl :The correctional offers should have flooded the cell blocks with water until the miscreants were flooding belly up Who ARE you? Jerry Falwell!? |
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chris231989
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do you even relized that prison is just for poor people that couldn't afford a good enough lawyer to get them out of trouble. the punishments for crimes in this country are totally unbalanced. well off to do people can get away with anything while poor people can spend time in jail so silly stuff. it's f*ing ridiculous. |
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stevephl
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Re: Porn inside of Prisons
Once again we break down and resort to the old and tired class envy defense, poor people tend to commit more acts of violence, criminal mischief and petty crime, if they were squared away they would not be poor in the first place. Too wipe away the sins of these criminals because some rich dude got caught with his hand in the cookie jar is ludicrous they are still criminals and need to be treated like one. I don't know how many times I crossed paths with an immigrant (not Mexican) from say Asia who legally immigrated to this great county with not much more then the shirt off of his back not speaking English, then ten years later owning his own home, car and in a lot of cases their own business, all due to hard work, not whining or bitching about how tough life is nor demanding benefits from the government and they typically do not end up in jail. |
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Re: Porn inside of Prisons
I like the Idea of removing the TV's. But leave the cable there. The cable is still useful.
They need something to wrap around their necks, and hang themselves from the light fixtures.
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