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Bill_MI
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Re: [Kerio 2.x] What is "no owner"?

Yep, you already have the right insight how things really work. There's also a likelihood, Kerio 2.x older technology will get worse and worse at getting things right as the network stack evolves further. Not much you can do about that except... be wise.


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Thanks Bill. Your explanation makes sense.

Among many proggies I've been testing recently, one now comes to mind, a TCP-based traceroute app which runs the trace using TCP SYN packets - which I believe Kerio picks up as "No Owner". Sort of like how the Windows built-in ping which leaves "Owner:TCPIP Kernel Driver" instead of "Owner: PING.EXE".


Bill_MI
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I think it means it cannot determine the owner and most likely the application closed before Kerio could get the info.

That's the OUTBOUND case you have. An INBOUND case happens a lot on things like late DNS replies or connection attempts after closing the program (like bittorrent).


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No, I always had the "Log suspicious packets" option disabled. The entry was from a 'catch all remaining outbound' rule I placed at the bottom of ruleset (i.e. block all outgoing from any application)


BlitzenZeus
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Well your log is incomplete to start as Kerio doesn't log anything without a rule, unless its from that 'suspicous' setting which just logs garbage/fragmented packets anyway.


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This thread is merely here to satisfy my curiosity.

Some entries in KPF 2.1.5 logs show the application as "No owner", per sample below.


Well I roughly guess that "no owner" means no application owns the packet. But I was wondering if some knowlegable guru here can provide a deeper explanation as to the causes behind it. Such as why does a packet has "no owner"? thanks
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