Re: Verizon right about one thing in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18966089 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:17:08 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:17:08 EDT Re: Verizon right about one thing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18967015 bmn :
said by batterup See Profile :

Thank you for finally admitting VoIP and all leeches are a bunch of hustlers out for a blood meal.
Kind of funny since your beloved phone company also offers VoIP... Guess the phone company is a bunch of hustlers too.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Whether Verizon gets reduced standards or not, the rules should be the same for everyone offering phone service in the state - even the VOIP providers.
A statement without a basis in reality... No VoIP provider can ever provide the exact same level of service as an existing ILEC or CLEC using traditional copper as a medium. To believe that it is possible and should be so is to know little about the nature of the beast.
Thank you for finally admitting VoIP and all leeches are a bunch of hustlers out for a blood meal.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18966870 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:04:50 EDT Re: Verizon right about one thing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18966089 ropeguru :
said by axus See Profile :

What is the benefit of LEC status? How did Verizon get this rule placed on it in the first place?

I imagine that Verizon agreed to something and then didn't do it, to save money. They should pay the fine and then cancel whatever agreement they made, if they don't like the agreement.
These are not agreements between the state, in my case I am discussing Virgnia, and Verizon. They are statutes that are enacted that regulate how the company will do things in order to keep their LEC status.

If you want to read about what is required in Virginia in order to be a LEC, I suggestyou start here:

»leg1.state.va.us/000/reg/TOC20005.HTM#C0427

You may also want to read this in order to better understand what a LEC is:

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_exchange_carrier

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Whether Verizon gets reduced standards or not, the rules should be the same for everyone offering phone service in the state - even the VOIP providers.
A statement without a basis in reality... No VoIP provider can ever provide the exact same level of service as an existing ILEC or CLEC using traditional copper as a medium. To believe that it is possible and should be so is to know little about the nature of the beast.
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I imagine that Verizon agreed to something and then didn't do it, to save money. They should pay the fine and then cancel whatever agreement they made, if they don't like the agreement.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965888 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:26:21 EDT Re: Verizon right about one thing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18965043 ropeguru :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Verizon says it is an unfair and arbitrary standard that aren't [sic] applied to its competitors in the increasingly competitive telecommunications market.
And that statement is true. Whether Verizon gets reduced standards or not, the rules should be the same for everyone offering phone service in the state - even the VOIP providers.
Not sure how it isn't the same. Anyone applying for LEC status has to follow the same rules. At least that is the case in Virginia.
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Verizon says it is an unfair and arbitrary standard that aren't [sic] applied to its competitors in the increasingly competitive telecommunications market.
And that statement is true. Whether Verizon gets reduced standards or not, the rules should be the same for everyone offering phone service in the state - even the VOIP providers.
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