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PhoenixDown
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An alterative to soundexchange?

I believe most of the online radio stations are playing independent artists -- wouldn't it be possible for these stations to create an alternative to soundexchange that could sign up the independants in a mutually beneficial deal? If so, they could give the riaa/soundchange the big FU and never play their crap.
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No.

The deal that SoundExange has with the Copyright Tribunal gives them the EXCLUSIVE right to collect royalties. Even if an American Internet Radio stations plays independent music only, it still has to pay royalties to SoundExchange for the right to play that music. If the Indy label wants that $$, it must JOIN SoundExchange!

Of course, no one has explained where any unclaimed Indy $$ goes....any one care to speculate?


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Re: An alterative to soundexchange?

Sounds uncompetitive and illegal.

besides, in my idea, a contract between the 'new' organization and the artists would have verbiage allowing it to supercede anything to do with sound exchange -- after that, its a civil court issue.

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russotto

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Re: No.

This is not the case. The radio station is free to negotiate royalties with individual rightsholders.

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Wrong....

No...the individual radio station is free to negotiate directly with SoundExchange-assuming that SoundExchange is willing to negotiate with them!

Look at SoundExchange's charter from Congress-they have the EXCLUSIVE rights to collect Internet radio music royalty payments.

The fees are set by the United States Copyright Royalty Board-basically a shill for the RIAA-as they completely and totally ignored the Internet broadcasters' comments and gave the RIAA EXACTLY what they wanted!

The only reason that SoundExchange wants to talk is because Congress is considering a law (The Internet Radio Equality Act) that would put them out of business for being so draconian-and they want to be seen by Congress as 'accomodating'. If that law dies, I predict that SoundExchange will revert to being a herd of assholes again-overnight!

Now...if the individual rights holders want to give their music away for free, that's quite another matter, but if compensation is involved, SoundExchange collects it.

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Illegal and unconstitutional laws are passed all the time..

Illegal/unconstitutional laws are passed all the time, but until they are declared so (usually by SCOTUS), they (can) continue to be enforced-sometimes for decades!

That's a big problem with our Govt...there's no penalty (other then throwing them out at election time) for elected officials doing this type of behavior.

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Re: An alterative to soundexchange?

if all the netcasters banded togather and staged a Mutany against soundexchange when the rates go up im sure some shit would be stirred. they all leave SXC, play indy music and pay the artist direct with side deals between them and the artist. therefore no laws are broken as the artist is getting paid.
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russotto

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Re: Wrong....

They are the only organization which can collect the _statutory_ royalties, but the radio stations are still free to license the music directly from the rightsholders and bypass the statutory royalty system.
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