Re: RIP utorrent in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18795509 en Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:25:28 EDT Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:25:28 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18941394 anon : Make sure you have a version of uTorrent earlier than 1.6.1 build 490, cause this is the first version released after the deal.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18941394 Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:10:42 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18877313 vliktor : Looks like they have plans of having a Mac OS X version. Cool! :D Developing for Linux may not be efficient use of their time as µtorrent runs perfectly under Wine or Cedega.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18877313 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:47:32 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18807313 anon : not true, u feel for the rumor.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18807313 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 03:12:32 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18801257 wispagod : ok, then so what, cause it's like a cop has to tell you there one if you sask before a drug deal, it's not leagle and will not hold up in court. they have to tell you being watched or it aint leagle, like survalence camera's in stors they have to post that on the door!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18801257 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 01:39:45 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18800804 anon : Here's your proof: »torrenthelp.depthstrike.com/2007···out.html

Wireshark packet dump of uTorrent traffic.

Everyone is freaking out about a new feature in the 1.7 tree, Local Peer Discovery. It uses multicast traffic to try to find geographically-close peers in order to speed up your transfers. The multicast block of addresses (224.0.0.0 - 239.255.255.255) is normally blocked by routers/firewalls/etc, leading to alert popups, leading to OMGWTFMPAABACKDOOR! calls.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18800804 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:11:55 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18798957 superht1 : i wish everyone stayed with .60 on bitcomet
their latest version is full of spam and spyware]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18798957 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:58:13 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18798170 swhx7 :
said by cypherstream See Profile :

Wouldn't peer guardian be able to detect and stop this report back nonsense?

Yes, unless uTorrent was super-sneaky and installed something at a very low level of the networking stack. But that would be detectable too.

The uTorrent documentation acknowledges that it connects at startup to check for new versions, only if the user has enabled that feature; and that it connects to a uTorrent server at startup if DHT is turned on. You have to allow those connectios, for those features to work. It could be delivering more information than claimed, but this would be detectable with packet inspection.

Apart from these exceptions, yes, any other connections would appear on logs like the Peer Guardian display. You would have to know what IPs to look for (to distinguish the "spy" connections, if any, from the legitimate ones belonging to torrent swarms).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18798170 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:02:13 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18797420 DataDoc : Cite your proof, or back off.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18797420 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:58:43 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18797292 Asmodeus1 :
said by mypoint is :

It's because it reports back to Mpaa and others.Reports back to Around 6 ip's that track everything you do regardless what they claim(which is lies) I'm staying with 1.6 as long as i can and if that don't work it will be another client
where is the proof of the backdoor and phone home? no one has been able to prove it yet... believe me, i'm not a fanboy, but i'm just being a realist at this point... present the proof, otherwise, stop making spurious and hysterical claims...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18797292 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:37:43 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18797088 swhx7 : Right, that's true. But there is incentive for building in "back door" or spyware code. Any for-profit software company can benefit from collecting statistics on its customers or even data-mining them as individuals. And with the **AA collaboration, it's also in the company's interest to build in something that can be used in future to regulate what users can do with the software (i.e. DRM). They would have to get rid of the open source competition to take advantage of this, but there are ways that could happen.

As I posted elsewhere, there's no proof for or against spyware or other tricks in uTorrent. But there are good reasons to be suspicious of any closed-source software from a profit-oriented company, especially when it's given away free, and even more so when it's commonly used for something that competes with the sponsors of the purveyor.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18797088 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:07:31 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18797041 swhx7 :
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

I'm still looking but I haven't seen any solid proof that the newer client reports anything to anyone. Perhaps people can offer up some evidence of this?

Thanks for saying this. I replied to someone making the opposite claim, and said that there's no proof of that either.

It is reasonable to be suspicious of any closed-source software from a profit-oriented vendor. But we can't have definite statements without evidence.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18797041 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:59:57 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18797030 swhx7 : The orginal developer, and again the Bittorrent company, have said that it will not be open-sourced or that they have "no plans" to do so.

There are open source Bittorrent clients. Some are very good. Some run on Mac or Linux.

The only advantages of uTorrent are that it's very well-coded and efficient on Windows (small filesize, little memory use, high performance); and many users like the interface. One of the open source clients could be improved to become equally excellent on Linux or Mac.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18797030 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:57:50 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18796303 vliktor : Does this mean that utorrent will be open-sourced or something? A Mac OS X or Linux version would be cool :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18796303 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:10:01 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795884 vick04 : Its sad to see that so many people didn't read the article. Some guy posts as anonymous and everyone falls for it. If utorrent was reporting back you wouldnt just hear it from some guy that doesnt have the balls to register on the site hes posting on. I bet this guy also thinks dslreports is going to steel his password if he registers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795884 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:59:42 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795852 raydog1 : There would be no point in creating an app that reports to the **AA. They can use the regular means to find lawsuit victims just as easily. Just fire up any bittorent app, connect to any Harry Potter movie torrent, collect IPs, send letters, rinse, repeat.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795852 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:54:03 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795622 Karl Bode : I'm still looking but I haven't seen any solid proof that the newer client reports anything to anyone. Perhaps people can offer up some evidence of this?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795622 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:10:53 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795509 cypherstream : Wouldn't peer guardian be able to detect and stop this report back nonsense? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795509 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:49:53 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795502 chaud :
said by mypoint is :

It's because it reports back to Mpaa and others.Reports back to Around 6 ip's that track everything you do regardless what they claim(which is lies) I'm staying with 1.6 as long as i can and if that don't work it will be another client
Same here. I don't care if it logs anything, I don't even want to contribte to their over 1 million downloads number or anything. Hopefully something new pops up to replace it. Azurues (spelling) is a reseource hog, and many other clients are not as light as utorrent was. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795502 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:48:55 EDT Re: RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795427 anon : It's because it reports back to Mpaa and others.Reports back to Around 6 ip's that track everything you do regardless what they claim(which is lies) I'm staying with 1.6 as long as i can and if that don't work it will be another client]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795427 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:34:31 EDT RIP utorrent http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795366 Omega : I'm using v1.6 and refuse to upgrade. As long as bitmetv.org allows v1.6, I will still use it.

What's funny is that website (one of the best torrent sites on the internet, in my opinion) bans every utorrent version from 1.7+]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18795366 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:23:45 EDT