Re: bah in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18597577 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:08:52 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:08:52 EDT Re: bah http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18604012 RayW :
said by dv See Profile :

understood, i was under the impression you witnessed all of those situations, i used to drive over 200 miles a day as a courier so i know what driving with a cellphone can do,

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no need to throw insults, I came across as rude, emoticons would have helped (i was saying who the hell are you as a joke)
Oh, but I did see the two near accidents and the aforesaid cell phones in use and the cell phone idiot in front of me all in two days, and as I think about it, the accident was two weeks ago, it was my first or second day going home from work after our trip. I did not post the stories from the truck drivers because 1. I do not remember them well enough, and 2. I did not witness them.

As far as insults, you called me a liar saying I was making up stories and implied I was lazy with too much time on my hands and that to me is not a joke, emoticons would not really mitigate that sentence either. So certain things about a person who makes a snap judgment like that, mostly not publishable and in this case related to companies who make a living selling cell phone equipment and services and can not take any criticism of their product, are made. If you meant it as a joke and are apologizing, then I accept it, but you do need to realize that contrary to what the media and Hollywood seem to be pushing, some people mean what they say and expect the same in response.
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cell phone usage in the car wont stop, i make a point to use a bluetooth headset, when I'm on the freeway I keep an active look at how fast i am going and don't piss off the people behind me.

no need to throw insults, I came across as rude, emoticons would have helped (i was saying who the hell are you as a joke)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18603066 Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:55:59 EDT Re: bah http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18601892 RayW :
said by dv See Profile :

you know, i have not seen an accident in the last 2 years, who the hell are you and why do you attract such bad luck? I swear, you must have so much time on your hands to just sit and imagine what people are doing with their phones.
Hmm..I like that, call me a liar to prove what a studly girl you are.

No, I get out and do things like go to work, go to the store, take kids places, do volunteer work, all things that add up the mileage driven and the time on the road to see idiots on cell phones trying to drive.

I do not understand why you think mentioning one accident is to be considered attracting such bad luck, or maybe I do considering your post. Other than that, I suppose that having to drive a lot may have something to do with seeing fools on the cell phone more than someone who stays in one place would.

My brother-in-law is a truck driver, he and a few of his co-workers were telling me a lot more stories about idiots trying to drive and talk on the cell a couple of weeks ago when we visited them. So it is not just me making up stories, it is also people who professionally drive a lot more than I do.
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said by Blackened See Profile :

∙ Drivers can still use their phone with a hands-free device
Studies have shown that it's the conversation, not holding the phone, that causes the accidents, so a hands free device doesn't help much, if at all.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18601400 Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:46:37 EDT Re: bah http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18600740 JoeyDee : Do you drive, Brian? People using cellphones held to their ear are a menace. At least when they're using the "hands-free" headsets they seem to look outside the car.

The thing that disappoints me most about all of these dumb laws is the Ca Highway Patrol's refusal to use the existing laws. Reckless driving, for example.

We really don't need a cellphone specific law if they'd bust the really bad "on-the-phone" drivers with a reckless.

:-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18600740 Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:29:53 EDT Re: bah http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18599845 anon : i think, that until you have passed a basic computer literacy test where you actually have to concentrate on what you are looking at, not to mention your surroundings, nobody should operate a vehicle whether it has wheels or not, afterall, someone has to drive the mouse without crashing...

shut up, hang up & drive cause accidents are just not cool...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18599845 Mon, 02 Jul 2007 02:40:05 EDT Re: bah http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18597577 op3l : I'm all for this ban on cell phones. I hate driving home from work and being stuck in traffic cause some one is driving their car while talking on the cell phone.

These people are usually the ones that presses on the brakes for no reason and thus slowing everyone down. Not to mention I've been run out of my lane for no reason sometimes and whenever I see who did the lane change, it's always some one that's talking on the phone.

I'm not saying I don't make mistakes when I'm on the phone, but I rarely use the phone while driving. The few times I did use the phone while driving, I have noticed I'll get lazy and not look before making a lane change or something equally stupid. Now if I was using a hands-free device, I drive normally because I'm not holding onto something.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18597577 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:46:42 EDT Re: bah http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18596531 KrK : Lawyers are catching on too. In a civil case, they find out if the defendant has a phone. Then they ask for the phone records... and if the records show the defendant was using a phone at the time of the accident, well, the case against them gets a lot stronger.

It's only a matter of time till insurance companies start doing this; If you are involved an an accident and you were using the phone the insurance company will declare you negligent and refuse to pay for your damage and injuries and only pay your victim.
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said by brianiscool See Profile :

there should be no bans like this
Maybe we ought to change the law to allow shooting cell phone users who cause accidents? But that might overload the morgues.

I saw one occur several days ago, she had the cell in her ear and made a left turn against traffic. She got hit and yes, I did see the cell phone as I was stopped at the cross street when she turned in front of me. Fortunately the other driver was not a stupid cell phone using idiot, so he managed to almost stop in time. No one hurt and they were able to drive off to a parking lot.

Stupidity happens in driving, it is part of being human, but the cell phone compounds that many fold, comparable to being drunk according to some recent studies. Yesterday I saw a driver almost hit another car, he did not want to put down the phone while turning into a parking lot and lost control, he did drop the phone then! In the same parking lot another driver almost hit pedestrians crossing the cross walk from the store entrance, again, she was on the phone and not driving. Friday on the way home from work, the idiot in front of me apparently had his phone go off, it looked like he reached down for it on the other seat and weaved back and forth over the bike lane (luckily no bicycles!), then slowly dropped from doing the speed limit to 10 MPH under. Finally honked at him a couple of times, and it woke him up and he took off at more than the speed limit.

And my wife says I am not very observant, so I wonder how many near accidents that I miss seeing (and I have posted a few others I have seen on other threads on this same subject)?

Yeah, we do not need any cell phone bans while driving, who cares about accidents happening because of idiots and their phones?
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∙ This is only for drivers, nobody else.
∙ Drivers can still use their phone with a hands-free device
∙ There has been way too many accidents in California, never mind my town alone thanks to people texting while driving. People should be watching the road, not their cell phone.

This is reminiscent to law about having a TV in the face of a driver, since they're such a distraction. Makes perfect sense in both circumstances too. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18596479 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 12:33:39 EDT bah http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18596356 brianiscool : there should be no bans like this]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18596356 Sun, 01 Jul 2007 12:00:55 EDT