Re: fios in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18581444 en Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:59:01 EDT Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:59:01 EDT Re: fios http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18594195 KA3SGM : Well it might seem to some of us that they have no clue how to maintain the fiber once they install it.

FTTH, IF you build it, they will come.

But when it breaks, and it takes more than 40 days to fix it, they will leave !]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18594195 Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:19:10 EDT Re: fios http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18587682 PolarBear :
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said by PolarBear See Profile :

Yes, but fiber costs 10x as much as copper to deploy!
Nope, fiber and copper installation costs are almost the same. In fact, when the copper gets larger, the fiber is cheaper due to cheaper materials. Labor is still labor, cable is still cable. The cost is still dominated by the labor costs and not the materials.
I have to disagree. Fiber optic cable is far more expensive that copper lines.
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said by PolarBear See Profile :

Yes, but fiber costs 10x as much as copper to deploy!
Nope, fiber and copper installation costs are almost the same. In fact, when the copper gets larger, the fiber is cheaper due to cheaper materials. Labor is still labor, cable is still cable. The cost is still dominated by the labor costs and not the materials.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18584182 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:26:53 EDT Re: fios http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18582352 cdru :
said by PolarBear See Profile :

said by morbo See Profile :

you're right. fiber costs 1/10 of copper to maintain. someone's gotta pay!
Yes, but fiber costs 10x as much as copper to deploy!
Deploy costs are the only thing to consider. Ongoing maintenance and capacity also must be weighted. It's not an immediate return on the investment, but go out 10, 20, or 30 years and Verizon is betting that there will be.
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Go Colts]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18582352 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:26:17 EDT Re: fios http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18582340 keyboard5684 : Then in 10 years it should be a wash. Good return on investment considering... unless my math is wrong :o]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18582340 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:25:02 EDT Re: fios http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18581488 morbo :
said by supernac See Profile :

I'm betting the installation cost are substantial. Its going to be a long time before they "save" any money.
they save on maintenance immediately and forever, compared to copper.

yes, install costs are huge. but once installed...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18581488 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:48:34 EDT Re: fios http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18581444 PolarBear :
said by morbo See Profile :

you're right. fiber costs 1/10 of copper to maintain. someone's gotta pay!
Yes, but fiber costs 10x as much as copper to deploy!
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