Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
 ·Embarq
| reply to raydog1
Re: The doctor analogy
If you are receiving professional e-mail then you and your company should be using a professional web hosting service.
Again, this is about spammer being allowed to spam you, not about individuals being able to e-mail each other.
And if it was about individuals contacting each other, I certainly would not want to being using e-mail server from an ISP that requires those who wish to send me legitimate e-mails to pay them money.
--
"Padre, nobody said war was fun now bowl!" - Sherman T Potter
»www.cafepress.com/maxolasersquad
»maxolasersquad.com/
»maxolasersquad.com/network/ My DSL Network Guide
»myspace.com/mlsquad |
|
raydog1
Feel Secure
Premium
join:2003-07-10
La Vergne, TN
| "If you are receiving professional e-mail then you and your company should be using a professional web hosting service."
Not if you can't afford it or are trying to save time. It wouldn't have been uncommon for me in my social work days to do something like this from home for a document that may have been as simple as a food stamp application. Faster to do it over email rather than driving to their home. A day later (if I did it in person) could result in a week delay in the client receiving their stamps depending on the time of week/month/year. If that email didn't get to them, then you have another delay. And before you say, "They need food stamps but have internet service???" It's not uncommon at all.
All I'm saying is the argument is valid. This isn't just an analogy. It actually happens in the real world. |
|
Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
·Embarq
| So you think that you should have to pay to have your legitimate mail go through? Again, if my contacts have to pay a premium to send me e-mail then I'm finding a new e-mail provider.
And also, again, this is not about legitimate contacts, this is about allowing spammers to pay a premium to spam their customers. |
|
raydog1
Feel Secure
Premium
join:2003-07-10
La Vergne, TN
| I don't agree with this at all. It just seems like another revenue stream. And what happens if my agency's emails were being blocked by these filters? Does it take longer to prove that I'm not a spammer or to pay the fee? In the above case, my agency may need to send emails quickly. If they call one of these ISPs, will the rep be faster to say "I'll take you out of the filter right now" or "Well, if you just pay the fee I can pass your emails through now. Otherwise it'll take 4-6 weeks to investigate and resolve this"? I find nothing good about it. |
|
Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
·Embarq
| Well, if these ISPs were working for the customers they would have a real system in tact for people to contact to let them know that their spam filters are producing a false positive and let them investigate. Because customer satisfaction is low on the todo list they resort to "just pay us some money and we'll clear it, regardless of what it is." |
|
raydog1
Feel Secure
Premium
join:2003-07-10
La Vergne, TN
| Exactly. If my email landed in a client's junk box, they would probably sit there all day long checking the inbox and cursing my name for letting them down. Most people people won't go through the trouble of calling their ISPs and even if they do, it'll probably be passed along to nobody. |
|
fatness
subtle
Janitor
join:2000-11-17
fishing
Host:
Earthlink DSL
TekSavvy
Forum Feature Requ..
Need Site Help?
Rants, Raves, & Pr..
edit:
June 13th, @07:06PM
| reply to Maxo
said by Maxo  :Again, this is about spammer being allowed to spam you, not about individuals being able to e-mail each other. Up close, that's what it's about at this moment. Take a step back, and it's about ISP's accepting money from a third party to prioritize delivery of e-mails to their already-paying customers.
Currently they're prioritizing for bulk-mail senders ("you can go straight through without running the spam filter gauntlet"). Once they can do this, they can certainly prioritize for other groups/individuals as well if they choose. And they can certainly impede non-prioritized mail if they choose as well, as someone else already noted:
said by TK Junk Mail :There is potential for abuse, as ISP's tighten spam filters to such a degree that most big businesses will pay the fee. But it will cut down on most spam due to the tightened ISP spam filters. --
Sure, that'll work.. |
|
