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  roc5955 Premium join:2005-11-26 Rosendale, NY
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| reply to Wills Re: Piracy will never end
What about downloading music that is not available in any format any more. Such is my case, there is a lot of music that simply flopped. Once the first release of the CD came out, they never even went for a second run. For example, George Harrison's Live in Tokyo album is great, but it was out of print for years. I wanted it, but couldn't find it, except for pirated MP3s out on the net, which I downloaded. Once I found out that it was back in print, I bought it right away.
Yes, pirating software is different than pirating music, but both have their own separate virtues. The person who cannot afford Photoshop (yes, I know about The Gimp, and use it) might decide to 'borrow' a copy from a friend or colleague to become proficient at the software. One can almost justify this.
You know, back in the old days, when software came on stone tablets, companies like Microsoft and Lotus, and Adobe would give away tons of their software, even though it was copy protected. Yes, there were ways around the copy protection, but wtf, if you can get it legit for free at PC Expo or something, carry on! These companies know that by allowing geeks like you and me to have these illegal copies of software, we become proficient at their software, and more often than not, get a job where the employer buys it and uses it. I'll bet that at least half of you out there have a pirated copy of some software.
And back in the old days when we had records that were made of beeswax, that would melt in the sun, Decca, Columbia, and a lot of big music publishers would give away copies of their recordings. Not so much today though.
Personally, I believe that, sadly, greed has taken over. Software, and music companies want to squeeze every penny out of their products. They claim that they are losing money, but wouldn't be if their executives would be less greedy.
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| said by roc5955 :May the Gods help me for agreeing with Maxo on this one. That is the only unforgivable sin of course. But, you were damned a while ago so carry on. | |  rradina
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| reply to roc5955 said by roc5955 :Personally, I believe that, sadly, greed has taken over. Software, and music companies want to squeeze every penny out of their products. They claim that they are losing money, but wouldn't be if their executives would be less greedy. When you say ...if their executives would be less greedy... do you mean that executive pay causes them to lose money or the executive's strategy of greed leads to disgruntled customers and more piracy?
Regarding pay, although executives are highly compensated, I doubt Bill and Steve's salary and stock options significantly raise the software prices.
Regarding greed, this article explains why executives must be greedy.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._F···_Company | |   roc5955 Premium join:2005-11-26 Rosendale, NY
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| said by rradina :When you say ...if their executives would be less greedy... do you mean that executive pay causes them to lose money or the executive's strategy of greed leads to disgruntled customers and more piracy? Regarding greed, this article explains why executives must be greedy. » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._F···_Company First of all, give me a break, the article you cited is from almost a century ago. Corporations are MUCH more greedy these days than they were. When I speak of greed, I mean that everyone wants everything. They are not willing to settle for a piece of the pie, they want the whole darn thing.
And yes, executives' large compensation, be it stock options, salary, or platinum parachutes, causes there to be less profits, because this compensation has to be paid for from what should be profits. | |  rradina
join:2000-08-08 Chesterfield, MO | Are you kidding me? You think corporations are more greedy today? I suppose unions formed because corporations of yesterday were so nice. | |   roc5955 Premium join:2005-11-26 Rosendale, NY
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| Okay, maybe corporations were pretty greedy in the past, and that led to the rise of labor unions, but since Reagan, unions have been on the decline, and corporate greed has risen. I wasn't alive a hundred years ago. I can just speak for how it was in my lifetime, and what was historically reported.
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why Reagan was so popular on this. He busted the Air Traffic Controller union, and started to deregulate corporations. In modern times, Reagan was the number one president to call for more corporate greed, and as a result of this, corporations are greedier than they have ever been in my lifetime. | |  rradina
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| reply to roc5955 Consumers are just as greedy. *Taking big breath*
It's never our fault. We're quick to sue when anything goes wrong. We must be told in bold red letters that the coffee is not just hot but EXTREMELY hot. And if it's not hot we bitch and even sue if it makes us sick. We contaminate our own food with human body parts or rodents on the demented hope that we might get rich. Oh and hair dryers and bathtubs, someone combined them and now we have hieroglyphics on the cord that suggest it's a really bad idea unless we intend suicide. And dammit, if we don't get cheap gas, cheap milk, cheap Chinese crap at Wal Mart, free software, free music and the God-given right to make a backup copies of our DVDs, there must be a conspiracy!
Bottom line, people are greedy assholes regardless of whether they are on the producer or consumer side of the fence. It's universal in that it drives consumerism and terrorism although the latter has nothing to do with business and everything to do with a few dudes with really small dicks who compensate by using big guns to oppress everyone so they can bread generational hate and declare themselves king of the shit hole all in the name of an extreme interpretation of God.
In general, we really suck at getting along. If America didn't enjoy such prosperity, we'd all shoot each other at the local water hole. Instead we just bitch because our Bit Torrent neighbor makes our streaming HD porn video jitter at the wrong time and we have to rewind and play the cum shot again. | |   roc5955 Premium join:2005-11-26 Rosendale, NY | I have to agree with you there rradina. People are waaaaaaay too greedy these days. | |
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