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Phattieg
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Re: Better than FIOS? LOL
said by Maxo  :said by Phattieg :but we're talking about what the provider is willing to push to the public for their $$$. Which is where, in many areas, Comcast loses at. Most people would rather buy a lower DSL tier and pay lower prices than pay $50/month for a premium connection. Edit: Spelling Really? Funny, because Comcast is the largest ISP for broadband service. The only larger provider is AOL's dialup. Thats strange you say they want slower DSL... 
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| said by Phattieg :said by Maxo :said by Phattieg :but we're talking about what the provider is willing to push to the public for their $$$. Which is where, in many areas, Comcast loses at. Most people would rather buy a lower DSL tier and pay lower prices than pay $50/month for a premium connection. Edit: Spelling Really? Funny, because Comcast is the largest ISP for broadband service. The only larger provider is AOL's dialup. Thats strange you say they want slower DSL... There is no defined winner. As has been reported DSL has been gaining ground and the lower price point seems to be the reason.
What would be interesting is, given people who have the option between the two, how many people grab which service.
Losing out may not be the best word choice, maybe starting to lose ground.
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GlennAllen
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March 9th, @05:40PM
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"...Comcast is the largest ISP for broadband..."
Yeah, for now, thanks to time and takeovers. Let's see where they are a few years from now in those ever-growing FiOS areas.
In my area: Comcast HSI (6000/384) for about $70 (no fees), Verizon DSL (3000/768) for $32.50 (including fees), and FiOS (30/5 for me) for $55 (no fees). My "preference ranking": FiOS first, DSL second, Comcast third (even with PowerBoost).
To each his/her own.
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Farley
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Croswell, MI
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March 9th, @04:48PM
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Yeah im sure Comcast does think its really funny, Im stuck with comcast and cant get DSL, I called in to see why my internet bill keeps rising, im told only the highest speed tier is avl to me. Everything in life is getting cheaper it seems, except comcast cable and television services.
Nice...
Id have them come shut it off, but i fear i might be murdered, my house might be destroyed in an explosion or they might fall asleep on my new Chase loungers i just got.
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said by Phattieg :Funny, because Comcast is the largest ISP for broadband service. The only larger provider is AOL's dialup. Hey, you should go to work for the PR department. You can sling irrelevant numbers with the best of them.
Comcast is the "largest ISP for broadband service" because they have the largest footprint. That has nothing to do with providing a quality product, competitive pricing or customers' warm fuzzy feelings when they get their bills every month.
For better or worse, once ATT finishes devouring BellSouth, it will be the "largest ISP for broadband service", which I also expect you to praise as being the best because it's the biggest.
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| reply to Farley
said by Farley : I called in to see why my internet bill keeps rising, Comcast hasn't changed the price of their internet service in over 5 years. You either came off a promo or are flat out lying to just post something here. | |
Farley
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Croswell, MI
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March 9th, @06:20PM
| Trust me i wish i was lying...
If your so big on comcast imrf maybe you can give me some hints on what i can do to get a better price than almost 60 bucks a month just for the internet portion. The next best alternative she could give me was dropping my High Definition TV to Standard to save on the bill.
gee thanks
very helpfull...
And if it Helps, We use the internet Casual, I need my on Demand, High Definition, and the Networks in HD, i could care less about the Premiums
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Utica, MI
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| Comcast has two tiers, a 6Mbps/384Kbps tier for $42.95 and a 8Mbps/758Kbps tier for $52.95, both without the $3 modem rental charge and both require tv service. That is the pricing tiers for the same state you live in, they do not vary from area to area.
If you don't want to pay almost $60 a month, then drop down the the 6Mbps tier. | |
Farley
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Croswell, MI
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March 9th, @08:39PM
| Man i swear to god they told me i couldnt Drop down, I went to the website and seen the 6 meger and called for it and they straight our denied me. This was twice now, once by me and once by my angry girlfriend who pays the cable lol.
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imrf
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Utica, MI
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| Either try again, or get on over to the cancellation people (retention) and tell them your issue. I'm sure they can "find" a way to get you a lower price. See if they can get you on the $33 per service package, where you could get internet(6Mbps) for $33 a month and tv service for $33 a month. They also have another promo right now with digital plus and HBO for $39.99 a month for 12 months. | |
Farley
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Croswell, MI
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March 9th, @06:30PM
| Rentention here we come, thanks
I hope they dont call my bluff or else ill be screwed | |
Phattieg
join:2001-04-29
Jacksonville, FL
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| reply to Farley
said by Farley :Trust me i wish i was lying... If your so big on comcast imrf maybe you can give me some hints on what i can do to get a better price than almost 60 bucks a month just for the internet portion. The next best alternative she could give me was dropping my High Definition TV to Standard to save on the bill. gee thanks very helpfull... First of all, Comcast High Speed Internet is $42.95 + $3.00 if you choose to rent the modem, but ONLY IF you have cable TV. They offer a "speed tier" for $10 more a month. On the $42.95 price, 5 years ago it was 1.5 meg down, 128 kbps up, no "speed tier" option, 4 years ago, it was 4 meg down, 256 kbps up, no "speed tier" option, 3 years ago it was 6 megs down, 384 kbps up, no "speed tier" option, then 2 years ago, it was the same, with "speed tier" option of 8 meg down, 768 kbps up. Now it's advertised as 6 meg down, but with powerboost, I average 9 meg down, and 384 kbps up, for standard speed, "speed tier" is advertised as 8 meg down, but I know with powerboost it averages 12 to 16 meg down, and 768 kbps up. Comcast is the first ISP to offer powerboost technology, to give customers better value IMO. I honestly think fiber is a great thing, but I also think that current prices to service, maintain, repair, install, and deploy fiber is too expensive to deploy everywhere. For years, cable has been way ahead of the game with speed on the internet, and television service that is ACTUALLY BROADCASTED by the owner, not 3rd party, like dish. Until fiber cost comes down, it's worth it more to simply invest in more ways to milk your equipment. With switched digital video coming, and DOCSIS 3.0, it won't be hard for cable to compete without having to deploy fiber. You all keep forgetting that the only reason fiber is being laid by the telco is because they can't expand copper enough to handle the practical applications for today. Cable still can, and they will, and when they day comes to goto fiber, they can do that too, and they can do it with ease, as they already have fiber to the neighborhood near you. Multiplexing that fiber and splicing it into a fiber node instead of a HFC would allow the same service. It's just not "necessary", because the internet, as it stands in America, just can't handle EVERYBODY that has broadband, to be able to cruse the web at anywhere near the 50 meg tier Verizon offers. Sure you will find some here and there, but consistently, for now, not everyone can hang. Imaging your connection if everyone had it... Anyway, argue all you want, I agree with Mr. Roberts, only on the premise that cable has been able to accomplish amazing feats in the past, so as current trend will show, they feel confident they can do it again, so I believe them.
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Phattieg
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Jacksonville, FL
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| reply to Farley
said by Farley :Rentention here we come, thanks I hope they dont call my bluff or else ill be screwed Funny, I looked up the zipcode for your location listed in your profile, 48422, looked up the area, tried a few VALID addresses, and kept being told it's not available in your area. Hmmm.. 
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dispatcher21
join:2004-01-22
united state | reply to Phattieg
Dude, search the news archives. There is story after story about how cable is bleeding customers away to DSL. Every quarter, new DSL subscriber numbers beats new cable subscribers while cable looses customers every quarter. | |
Phattieg
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Doc, seriously, lets recap, Comcast owns 27% of the cable tv industry in the US, and yes thats a large percentage, but my reply was basically to point out that the general group of folks that want DSL lite, have it. Most of my callers have routers, and multiple computers, or they like to game. They need speed, not slow. The people who don't want speed flat out say "no, I'll go to DSL", and I don't hate them for that, we're about speed. I have never had a person complain to me that DSL is not available, and thats why they have us. I do, however, often get people complaining that their DSL sucks, and it's suppose to be 6 meg, but it's only 4 meg at it's max. Keep in mind I also did DSL support too. Between the two, DSL sucks. All of the callers for DSL were hateful, and it reminded me of that Comcast commercial where everyone in the office with DSL started fighting and crap. The provisioning, trouble tickets for speed and line issues, and over all requirements of the service, including PPPoE, sucked too, and many people hated having to use it. I know a router would be an easy solution, but most people that only want "slow" dsl don't even know what a router is. My own dad has DSL Lite. It's slow as hell, and even he says "I only have it because it's cheap, I hate it though". He had Comcast, and since he doesn't use the computer much, he uses it for e-mailing pictures now and then, and my stepmom orders from catalogs. Since they are not computer savvy, they don't need it, I can't blame them. But at the same time, I don't think Comcast should offer lesser packages. Considering the speed keeps increasing and the price stays the same, I wouldn't like to risk them raising the price to cover the cost of people decreasing service to a lesser package. Besides, it's stupid to go "backwards".
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Farley
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Croswell, MI
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March 9th, @07:20PM
| reply to Phattieg
My zipcode is 48060, i moved almost 2 years ago to port huron and didnt update my address on this website smartass..
Croswell is a small town of 1500 people where i used to live and oddly enough in this 1 stoplight town dsl was avl.
Maybe there wasnt enough populus in croswell for comcast to care.
Do you want me to get you a pair of Kneepads so your not so sore after playing comcast's skin flute on these fourms?
My complaint is a valid one
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Phattieg
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said by dispatcher21 :Dude, search the news archives. There is story after story about how cable is bleeding customers away to DSL. Every quarter, new DSL subscriber numbers beats new cable subscribers while cable looses customers every quarter. Yeah, and every quarter, telephone lines from the phone companies all over America are dropped for Cable VoIP, and the net gain in subscribers is more than the phone companies net. You don't understand, simply put, each quarter BOTH are gaining customers. If you talk about a footprint, the telco has a bigger print than cable, but their DSL technology sucks, and they can't always deliver, or gurantee delivery of the product.
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RadioDoc
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| reply to Phattieg
If there is a point in there, it's lost in the contract-like formatting.
Comcast still can't beat my DSL in this system. Four megabits is it for Comcast here, and that barely works. I'm sitting with two 6016/768 DSL connections which routinely test at 5100/650. I suspect you are utterly clueless about anything outside your immediate area or are spouting info you heard somewhere or didn't understand.
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| reply to Phattieg
said by Phattieg :said by Maxo :said by Phattieg :but we're talking about what the provider is willing to push to the public for their $$$. Which is where, in many areas, Comcast loses at. Most people would rather buy a lower DSL tier and pay lower prices than pay $50/month for a premium connection. Edit: Spelling Really? Funny, because Comcast is the largest ISP for broadband service. The only larger provider is AOL's dialup. Thats strange you say they want slower DSL... DSL has been outselling cable in new adds by quite a large margin because of price. Just because Comcast is good at buying up other cable operators doesn't mean they're 'working' at getting new adds. They're just buying them.
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March 10th, @11:07AM
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said by imrf :said by Farley : I called in to see why my internet bill keeps rising, Comcast hasn't changed the price of their internet service in over 5 years. You either came off a promo or are flat out lying to just post something here. That's not true. In 2005 they revamped their pricing adding additional bunding penalties to those like me who didn't have CATV. Those who had expanded basic or higher didn't see the price increases. Those like me who didn't saw the increases and were passed over for some of the speed increases (I was stuck at 4Mb while the standard plan was 6Mb).
Here each tier had 3 price levels, those with expanded basic or higher, those with broadcast basic and those with only HSI.
At least that is what happened in my SoCal franchise.
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