vpoko
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Re: they lie? and we're suprised because?
said by karlmarx  :Of course the megacorps are going to lie about it. For them, the ONLY thing that matters is to provide the least amount of service, at the highest price they can charge. Look at comcast, the so called 'BMW' of internet access. Comcast is a rip-off by any measure. Compare the 65.00 comcraptic access charges vs the 29.00 100mb full duplex charges overseas. Comcast rapes the customer BECAUSE THEY CAN. A corporation is not a living, breathing person. A corporation is a mindless construct of pure evil, whose sole purpose is to take from the poor, and give to the rich. It's high time we stop listening to the lies and half-truths these bastards keep crying, and FORCE them to work for the COMMON GOOD. That's what the FCC's original mandate was, but it's been corrupted by corporate greed and malfeasance If there were NO corporations, there would be NO broadband. It's not corporations that are evil to you, it's the whole notion of business. After all, a rich person can go into business and make themselves richer without needing to incorporate. |
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xsiddalx
join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL
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Why do you believe Corporations are necessary for broadband?
As for the good/evil debate...it is debatable and not really related to broadband...
If there were NO corporations, there would be NO broadband. It's not corporations that are evil to you, it's the whole notion of business. After all, a rich person can go into business and make themselves richer without needing to incorporate.
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vpoko
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| said by xsiddalx :Why do you believe Corporations are necessary for broadband? Corporations exist so that lots of people can pool their resources into a business entity. Can you imagine a single person, or even a small partnership, being able to raise capital to build infrastructure? I'll be the first to say that there are lots of imperfections and abuses in our corporate system that need to be addressed, but saying we're anti-corporate while using corporations' services is like a 4-year old saying they're anti-parents. |
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xsiddalx
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Chicago, IL
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| said by vpoko :said by xsiddalx :Why do you believe Corporations are necessary for broadband? Corporations exist so that lots of people can pool their resources into a business entity. Can you imagine a single person, or even a small partnership, being able to raise capital to build infrastructure? I'll be the first to say that there are lots of imperfections and abuses in our corporate system that need to be addressed, but saying we're anti-corporate while using corporations' services is like a 4-year old saying they're anti-parents. I can imagine anyone building capital, Corporations are necessary to raise venture capital, but I will not deny that they might be a necessity for reasons other than a profit producing product.
Nevertheless, anyone can build infrastructure. Why can't any of your examples make a go at it? Does incorpration have a magic "profitability" wand?
I think I messed up my quoting...button....are you sure you aren't responding to my quote? Interestingly enough, you seem to lean on the "corporation" as a saviour as much as the original poster used "anti corporation". Both examples are 4 or 50 year old "anti-parents".
Again, can you clarify what the business classification have to do with broadband deployment? |
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vpoko
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| said by xsiddalx :Again, can you clarify what the business classification have to do with broadband deployment? Sorry if I was unclear. A corporation is a practical way to have a business with a large number of partners (investors). Corporations are able to to raise capital by selling stock (bringing more partners into the mix by giving them an ownership stake). Without that mechanism, the only way to raise capital would be to borrow (bonds), and for the large investments needed for infrastructure, companies need all the capital they can get. |
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