Re: Why Bother? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17737507 en Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:39:09 EDT Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:39:09 EDT Re: Why Bother? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17757636 ackman :
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said by ackman See Profile :

Free is still crap if you have to waste time sitting through commercials. I don't have time to sit through 20 minutes of commercials in a one hour program. Given the choice, I'll not use a DVR, I'll miss the entire show, and I'll certainly miss the commercials. So, in the end, how does disabling the commercial-skip help the advertisers in my case? Doesn't. Hopefully others will govern their decisions similarly when it comes to the cable company controlling what you watch in your own home.
Well, you need to compromise...
I compromised when I bought the Tivo and when I paid for the Tivo service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17757636 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:05:07 EDT Re: Why Bother? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17757630 ackman :
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said by ackman See Profile :

Given the choice, I'll not use a DVR, I'll miss the entire show, and I'll certainly miss the commercials.
so rather than have the ability to watch a show that you missed, you'd rather just not watch it at all?
Yep, you understood correctly. TV just isn't that important to my life, and there are tons of other more compelling activities to garner my attention. The thought of having to waste 30% of my time sitting through mind-numbing commercials isn't high on my short list of things to fill my time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17757630 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:03:26 EDT Re: Why Bother? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17741576 lonewoolf47 :
said by brooklynman4 See Profile :

Look at dish they went to court even when tivo sued them and they still kicking with them dvrs now the new recievers record hd so what is the problem with a little risk lol.
The answer to your reply is Spell Check and a sixth grade education.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17741576 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:28:04 EDT Re: Why Bother? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17739422 thender2 :
said by pnh102 See Profile :

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One major problem: the "DVR-lite" service won't let you fast-forward through ads. It also only works for "selected" shows and channels

So in other words, it is useless!
This is why analog kicks ass.

My tape machine doesn't differ commercials from the show. It sees video, and audio, and doesn't discriminate.

The day I can't fast forward through ads in a show I recorded, when I'm PAYING for cable is the day I'd stop paying for cable..

edit: I just noticed I was a bit unfair discrediting digital media so abrubtly. Online video "piracy" is of similar quality without the above restraints, and looks better than analog tape as well.
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said by ackman See Profile :

Given the choice, I'll not use a DVR, I'll miss the entire show, and I'll certainly miss the commercials.
so rather than have the ability to watch a show that you missed, you'd rather just not watch it at all?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17737955 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:14:44 EDT Re: Why Bother? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17737521 Jmartz :
said by ackman See Profile :

Free is still crap if you have to waste time sitting through commercials. I don't have time to sit through 20 minutes of commercials in a one hour program. Given the choice, I'll not use a DVR, I'll miss the entire show, and I'll certainly miss the commercials. So, in the end, how does disabling the commercial-skip help the advertisers in my case? Doesn't. Hopefully others will govern their decisions similarly when it comes to the cable company controlling what you watch in your own home.
Well, you need to compromise...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17737521 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:03:05 EDT Re: Why Bother? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17737507 ackman : Free is still crap if you have to waste time sitting through commercials. I don't have time to sit through 20 minutes of commercials in a one hour program. Given the choice, I'll not use a DVR, I'll miss the entire show, and I'll certainly miss the commercials. So, in the end, how does disabling the commercial-skip help the advertisers in my case? Doesn't. Hopefully others will govern their decisions similarly when it comes to the cable company controlling what you watch in your own home.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17737507 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:01:28 EDT Re: Why Bother? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17737388 Jmartz :
said by Tikker_LoS See Profile :

said by Jmartz See Profile :

Free is good... at least TimeWarner is attempting to do new technology... Cablevision isn't doing crap... they scrap their plans for the network DVR that can fast forward and nothing else has been heard since... it's "Their way or no way"... I hope FIOS gets here quick.
I know our company was looking into the network DVR as well, and got enough crap from the content providers that we stopped even looking into it (and moved focus to DVR set top boxes)
Cablevision hasnt even put much effort into their DVR set top boxes. They have done the bare minimum to get it working. It does... but they need to do something "cutting edge"... instead of following the leader.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17737388 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:40:33 EDT Re: Why Bother? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17737330 Tikker_LoS :
said by Jmartz See Profile :

Free is good... at least TimeWarner is attempting to do new technology... Cablevision isn't doing crap... they scrap their plans for the network DVR that can fast forward and nothing else has been heard since... it's "Their way or no way"... I hope FIOS gets here quick.
I know our company was looking into the network DVR as well, and got enough crap from the content providers that we stopped even looking into it (and moved focus to DVR set top boxes)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17737330 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:29:16 EDT Re: Why Bother? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17737291 Jmartz : Free is good... at least TimeWarner is attempting to do new technology... Cablevision isn't doing crap... they scrap their plans for the network DVR that can fast forward and nothing else has been heard since... it's "Their way or no way"... I hope FIOS gets here quick.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17737291 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:21:37 EDT Re: Why Bother? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17736748 AmnChode : Exactly. I have this and was kinda surprised with it. I just happen to come home, turn on the TV, change the channel, and saw it prompted if I wanted to start over. I got froggy and selected it and it started playing from the beginning. I was a little annoyed at first that I couldn't fast forward, but I have since, got over that. It has come in handy a few time when flipping through the channels and hit a show I'd like to watch from the beginning instead of 15-30 mins into it. And being I have regular DVR service through them, it comes as a real nice added bonus for shows that I don't wanna dedicate disc space for.

But it is annoying that I don't have it on every channel and/or show. But definitely has prospects...And if you don't have it, I wouldn't dog it just yet...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17736748 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:38:09 EDT Re: Why Bother? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17736638 TKJunkMail :
said by pnh102 See Profile :

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One major problem: the "DVR-lite" service won't let you fast-forward through ads. It also only works for "selected" shows and channels

So in other words, it is useless!
Not worth much, I agree. But it is free and it has one use I can think of.

If you came home for example at 8:15 and don't have a DVR or if you do have a DVR and haven't set up a recording, you can start watching that 8:00 PM show from the beginning and not miss the beginning of the show.
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said by Tikker_LoS See Profile :

it'd be a pretty nice service to be able to watch any prime time show on demand, even if you then have to put up with commercials
Fortunately there are other DVR options, especially involving off-air HDTV, which allow for fast forwarding through commercials. We've even gotten used to watching DVR-ed programs 15 minutes into the show so we can skip the commercials.

Cable and satellite companies need to understand that commercial skipping is a must in any DVR. We as subscribers are paying to watch these ads, and as a result, we should be able to fast forward through them like any other content.
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depending on costs, it'd be a pretty nice service to be able to watch any prime time show on demand, even if you then have to put up with commercials]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17736574 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:02:17 EDT Why Bother? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17736543 pnh102 :
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One major problem: the "DVR-lite" service won't let you fast-forward through ads. It also only works for "selected" shows and channels

So in other words, it is useless!
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