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Someone is smoking crack if they think pissing in some bushes is in any way related to being a sexual offender.

That is a horrible tag to put on someone who has to take a leak. But, special legistlation. Use your vote.

reply to joewho
I can't argue with much of that. Las Vegas IS a sell out. That's kind of the idea, though. Money rules this town, and those with money get not only more options, but can do things here they can do no other place. It sucks for people with no money, and no means (or worse, no motivation) to get it. And Vegas is far more expensive than I thought it would be.

I do disagree on a few things, though.

As far as the police shooting so many people, if they were obeying the law, they likely wouldn't have gotten shot. I have NO fear of getting shot by Metro since if I come into contact with police in an official capacity, they are in charge. "Yes, officer" works pretty well. I'm not worried about a corrupt cop pulling me over or coming up while I am in the course of my business and extorting me, so why be belligerent?

Running away from them, handcuffed or not, puts you in a precarious position if you ask me. Dragging a bicycle officer with you car is a good way to get shot by a cop. Not dropping the gun in your hand when ordered to is a good way to get shot. Shooting a police officer in front of other officers is pretty much a guaranteed execution waiting to happen. Sure, the police around here are aggressive—to those who typically deserve it -- but I like that. It might make some criminal think twice. And if that criminal doesn't, gets shot and are off the streets, mission accomplished.

Starting a business in Nevada legitimately is complicated. I was surprised at the amount of crap to do. Register an LLC, file more paperwork, get a state license, a local license, an occupational license (with inspection) and all sorts of other stuff. I tried doing it on my own, but needed an attorney to make sure it was all done properly. $800 later, give or take. UGH!

As for the union thing and all the rules, they are a bit happy about all that stuff out here. For being in the "wild wild west" there sure do seem to be a lot of rules to follow and people to, um, "please".

I agree that peeing in a bush is not a sexual crime. It is a STUPID one, though. There should be a penalty, but not a destruction of your reputation for life. I have no sympathy for the "homeless" in this town. There are places for them to go in both senses of the word. Anyone finding a public restroom lacking in Las Vegas isn't looking for one. Sure, you might have to walk a little bit, but I don't get caught having to go in an instant. I have always found a place. As for needing shelter, there are shelters in Vegas. That's where those in need should be fed.

Sure, it seems mean-spirited to not allow the homeless to be fed in parks, but parks are not meant for that kind of activity. They are recreational. Picnics are one thing, since you're bringing your own food or food for your specific gathering. Setting up feeding camps for homeless is another issue and brings in all sorts of undesirable behavior, not to mention can crowd out people there for the intended purpose of the park.

There are places where large numbers of people in need can be fed. Much of the purpose of that law is to get those people into the appropriate places. I'm sure that if someone in need is walking by your picnic and you hand them a sandwich, you're not going to get in any trouble. Organize something that causes undue burdens on the park or is disruptive, and you might. Seems fair to me.

I'm not a resident of Las Vegas (I live in Henderson) but I like Oscar. I like his irreverence and his attitude. It's all about making your own way and not expecting a handout.

And the pedestrians that are getting hit are the ones breaking the traffic laws. In many cities they can just cross wherever and whenever and expect the cars to stop, sometimes unexpectedly, so the pedestrians can cross. That's jaywalking, but in most places the driver of the car gets in trouble when the pedestrian causes the problem.

In Vegas, if you act like an idiot, cross against the light or jaywalk and get hurt … you're responsible. Personal accountability at its finest. Sure there are exceptions and people here are jerks and drive VERY aggressively, so it goes both ways. I just hate to see an innocent driver penalized when some jerk on feet gets tagged while being a jerk.

Vegas is about options, but it's also about responsibility. Act responsibly, follow the rules, and everyone gets along fine. It's still America, so if you don't like 'em, change 'em. Personally, I like living here more than any other place I have ever lived. Sure, there are things I would change, but or the most part, it works. Take care of yourself and the rest falls into line.

So, with that off my chest, you do paint work?

reply to joewho
Yes, I do paint work.

I realize I went a little overboard with the first post, but mostly stick with my opinion.

I personally have no problem with cops, as a matter of fact, I did some work for one. He tipped me and put me on Angies list.

About cops shooting thier own citizens, I will soften my opinion by saying that there should be other options than center mass, shoot to kill when there is no threat to life.
I see your point, but there are many instances when there is no threat to life, including some kid running away in handcuffs. Chase him down. Shoot him in the ass. But killing is pemanent.

As for drivers, they are too aggressive. I personally know a friend who was just standing at the bus stop and got ran over! I'm not driving here yet, and I know that there are far too many instances of people getting hit at corners and bus stops. The whole thing is not black and white, but not only should we be responsible for ourselves, we have some responsibility for our people too.

It just seems that there is no honor in this town. No law against that, but when you give out your best and get back crap, you either have to join the other side or take a constant loss. Money and moral wise.

Yes, again, I paint. 20 yrs. Full union member. Not that being in the union is a badge. I do and have always done better work than you will find in the union.

A friend (ex friend now) has been bugging me for 3 years to come out here. He's a union carpenter. I'm from Chicago and no stranger to unions, although I've never had to join.
Starting a business, as a contractor, has some other rules than just starting a business. At any rate, I've been talking to people about it. As long as I work alone, I should be OK.

I respect your opinions and especially the non-confrontational way you state it It still seems that Vegas is dog eat dog. I do know people that have been here when the strip wasn't even paved. A lot are leaving because Vegas has changed.
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I'm glad you understood my post in the spirit in which it was posted.

Vegas is a difficult town. There is very little outside support and people do tend to give you the cold shoulder. We've been here a year and meeting people is difficult. I think it has to do with a permeating feeling of mistrust around town. People don't tend to trust.

The drivers are too aggressive. It's crazy. I'm lucky to work at home, but always shocked when I go out. My car helps a bit, since it looks a bit like a police car, but my wife's yellow VW New Beetle gets no respect. She has to drive 30+ miles a day and frequently comes home with a scary story about how someone cut her off, or otherwise was driving like a maniac.

It sounds like we agree more than we disagree on stuff, and I completely understand your shock. It takes a while to get used to things out here and the feeling of loneliness. Despite that, I really like Vegas. There's an electricity here I feel nowhere else. And my wife and I don't party, drink, or gamble in any significant way, so we're not into the casino scene.

I hope things work out a bit better for you. If I know of anyone needing paint work, I also know who to send them to.

reply to joewho
Well, at least I've talked to one decent person out here. You.

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Hey Joewho,
You're not alone. I've been here ten years. This town used to suit me perfectly. Funny thing, God actually brought me here to save me.

There is a growing core of God's people here. My church (Paradise Seventh Day Adventist) feeds the homeless on Saturday afternoons and has been for the last three years. Finding places to do it is never hard.

I've been in construction for 25 years. Right now, I'm working a crappy job, but it STILL pays enough to carry my mortgage.

If there's anything I can do, just ask!

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reply to joewho
Capt: I have found people here from chicago, as I am. But they are sort of new or leaving too. Seems that the natives know better how to navigate, where the deals are and are generally more concerned about long term residence.

As for God or Godless, I don't care what people belive in or not. I do believe in honor and respect.

Bygjymbo: This is a great site and easy to register. I can't send you an IM if you aren't registered. One thing is that I'm a painter, but I'm also a little bit educated. I don't know many people in the trades that come to this site.
It's nice to know at least you do. I don't want to go into church, relgion etc. in the open forum. But if you register, I'd be glad to talk using the Instant Message feature.

Anything you can do? I'm always looking for work.

Again, I can't IM you, so I can't go into that very much either. But I do appreciate your reply. To talk privately, either register with dslreports or shoot me an e-mail at spamacct1122@yahoo.com. From there I'll give you a non public e-mail address.

Thanks for the replies.
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reply to joewho
No, no! You don't want to talk to the natives.. you want to find the new people that just came from middle America. Those are the most normal people you will find in Vegas.

I find natives to be a bit on the weird side, personally.

reply to joewho
Well there aren't that many native (born and raised) Las Vegans anyway. I think the native population is only something like 2-3%. I could be wrong though.

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Joewho-
I may have work for you next year. You got references?

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Yes, I have references.

And, by the way, have calmed down about Las Vegas. Got into a disadvantaged situation and freaked out a little bit there.