Re: Competition..... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r16400207 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:55:21 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:55:21 EDT Re: Competition..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16401008 Tsume : There was actually a news story on our local news channel about how some areas of san diego have cable competition, which is rare in the US.
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"True warriors do not follow paths, they make them. It is not just their desire, it is their nature." (Battletech)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16401008 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:54:55 EDT Re: Competition..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16400207 roamer1 :
said by bogey780 See Profile :

I hadn't seen any triple play lock-outs from Bell. Didn't know they did it anywhere.
BellSouth hasn't to the best of my knowledge, even in IFITL neighborhoods (not including apartment complexes and other MDU situations, where exclusive contracts are the norm and one company doing both cable and phone isn't at all unusual.) Ditto for both SBC/at&t and Verizon. What Qwest and Cox have done in Arizona is quite unusual, and is largely enabled by peculiarities in regulations and development patterns in that state that are shared by only a few other states (mainly Texas.)

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"it seems like all you ever buy is Abercrombie and cell phones" --a friend]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16400207 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:24:56 EDT Re: Competition..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16400171 roamer1 :
said by Tsume See Profile :

Actually, in San Diego county many areas can be served by two different (might even be three in a few areas! we've got RR, COX, and Adelphia around here) cable providers.
Major MSOs competing with one another is highly unusual. (That said, I've heard of it happening in very isolated instances -- back before Comcast bought AT&T Broadband, in one part of Atlanta there was something like 25 houses on a street that straddles a county line that could choose from either one.)

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"it seems like all you ever buy is Abercrombie and cell phones" --a friend]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16400171 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:12:01 EDT Re: Competition..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16391474 bogey780 : I hadn't seen any triple play lock-outs from Bell. Didn't know they did it anywhere.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16391474 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:53:59 EDT Re: Competition..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16391373 cableguy619 : here in california....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16391373 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:39:47 EDT Re: Competition..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16390581 fiberguy :
said by bogey780 See Profile :

where?
Qwest is doing the same thing in Arizona as well. They have communities where you can only get their service just like COX.

Always funny when the pot calls the kettle black. Like it was said, phone does it too.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16390581 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:44:41 EDT Re: Competition..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16389870 Tsume : Actually, in San Diego county many areas can be served by two different (might even be three in a few areas! we've got RR, COX, and Adelphia around here) cable providers.
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"True warriors do not follow paths, they make them. It is not just their desire, it is their nature." (Battletech)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16389870 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:58:15 EDT Re: Competition..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16388904 roamer1 :
said by Tsume See Profile :

Why aren't apartment complexes getting sued for signing deals only allowing one cable company there?
Because unlike the developer deals, deals with apartment complexes don't infringe upon the rights of the owners of complexes. They do affect the tenants, of course, but the interests of the owner trump those of the tenants.
My friend is stuck with Adelphia and would love COX, but the managers say they're stuck in a contract with Adelphia. Should be ILLEGAL.
That won't happen even in the absence of an exclusive contract since Adelphia and Cox don't compete. Of course, it could be worse -- even Adelphia is better than the utter crap spewed from leaky micro-headends that some apartment complexes (fewer and fewer these days, thankfully) pass off as "cable".

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"it seems like all you ever buy is Abercrombie and cell phones" --a friend]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16388904 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:39:45 EDT Re: Competition..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16388379 Tsume : Actually... they really aren't.

And say they were..

Well, just add another generic recovery fee at the bill.

They don't pay the fine, the customers do.
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"True warriors do not follow paths, they make them. It is not just their desire, it is their nature." (Battletech)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16388379 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:15:13 EDT Re: Competition..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16387963 GhostDoggy : And they are also fined all of the time, too. So, what is your point, really?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16387963 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:18:12 EDT Re: Competition..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16387442 Tsume : Indeed, 2m is OBSCENE. Esp since the telcos are never punished for this bs.

Why aren't apartment complexes getting sued for signing deals only allowing one cable company there? My friend is stuck with Adelphia and would love COX, but the managers say they're stuck in a contract with Adelphia. Should be ILLEGAL.

And as far as no competition goes, I'd rather have COX and no competition than someone with zero chances of upgrading such as AT&T.
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"True warriors do not follow paths, they make them. It is not just their desire, it is their nature." (Battletech)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16387442 Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:02:08 EDT Re: Competition..... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16386167 TKJunkMail :
said by kdandaoc See Profile :

Not sticking up for Cox, but the telcos engage in this activity all of the time, whats the diff?

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Cox getting what it deserves, but a few mitigating factors might justify reducing the fine.

1st, the local government of Peoria set up the whole exclusive deal rules that the developer used with Cox.

2nd, Cox paid out $1m to settle with a small phone company.

3rd, Cox wiped the deal out when challenged by the commission.
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