Conversely in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r16254801 en Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:37:59 EDT Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:37:59 EDT Re: Conversely http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16259306 dadarkside : When Akimai experiences a hardware failure, all kinds of net content have the potential to go "missing".

Screwups are along the same line.

Cox offered a security app that had blacklisted craigslist.

Cox is still neutral regarding craigslist. The security app is not.

Many, many of the ads on Craigslist, really aren't family friendly. I don't blame the app.

This one's on the end user, as long as Cox advises their users that uninstalling restores connectivity.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16259306 Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:46:02 EDT Re: Conversely http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16256486 anon : The people that said anything were normal users that didn't have the knowledge to test if they were actually blocked.

An news agency that picked that up with out talking to a consultant should deserve the backlash that is about to be unleashed against them.

MORONS!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16256486 Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:25:37 EDT Re: Conversely http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16255865 tsu9 : What happens when too many packets drop, "get lost", or are routed horribly?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16255865 Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:33:47 EDT Re: Conversely http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16255834 tsu9 : You're missing the comparison. I'm not saying these are net neutrality violations, but rather the effect is--or could be--similar. The, "Oh, if a few packets get dropped, that isn't our problem. That website could upgrade to our AwesomeService Plus™ routing to gaurantee their traffic." is the comparison to which I was referring.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16255834 Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:27:33 EDT Re: Conversely http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16255606 Shark_615 : No it isn't

What you are talking about is like saying that no internet connection and a reduced speed are the same thing when they clearly are not.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16255606 Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:57:17 EDT Re: Conversely http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16255512 Karl Bode : Unintentional and limited is not a smaller proportion of intentional and broad. These are not cases of network neutrality violations, they are someone accidentally screwing up!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16255512 Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:44:39 EDT Re: Conversely http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16255393 tsu9 : Naturally, it is an exaggerated proportion, but the similarity is intact.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16255393 Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:24:19 EDT Re: Conversely http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16255277 Karl Bode :
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Or, it can point out precisely how non-neutral nets will operate
But they won't operate by blocking two states from YouTube outight, or via a shoddy piece of security software. Neither instance is an accurate representation of how the threat will emerge, because it's unlikely an incumbent could get away with outright blocking of legal content.

The threat emerges via subtly de-prioritized competitor packets. Tariffs are applied, and from there competing content prices are driven up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16255277 Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:05:30 EDT Conversely http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16254801 tsu9 : Similarly, crying wolf each time a network belches could hurt the case for net-neutrality by painting advocates as knee-jerk reactionaries.

Or, it can point out precisely how non-neutral nets will operate, thus helping the push to retain neutrality.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16254801 Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:49:18 EDT