FreeBSD is not Windows in All Things Unix http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r16214061 en Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:17:54 EDT Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:17:54 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16246591 reub2000 :
said by TheAuthor :

I tried to put ReactOS on my desktop PC. Sadly, it wouldn't install :(

Mind you, it worked perfectly via Qemu. They've still got some work to do, but it's very promising for an alpha..
A quick "svn log" shows that no significant changes have been made to usetup.c in months.

Also if your using the 0.2.9 version keep in mind that it was released a while ago. Try compiling the 0.3 branch from the subversion repository.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16246591 Tue, 06 Jun 2006 05:00:12 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16244131 z9_87 : wow, I may have to check that out, I don't even have an xp copy on my computer any more, but I'd like to see what reactos is like, maybe they have a livecd.
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It's several thousands words to the extent of "thats not a bug, it's a feature".

I stopped reading it when I got to the interface section, and realized it was one big rationalization.

Sorry, Not impressed. You do list the problems, but you dont accept any of them as such. It reads like a snow job. If you're preaching to the choir it's great, but I think you'd alienate end-users with it.
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Mind you, it worked perfectly via Qemu. They've still got some work to do, but it's very promising for an alpha..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16239976 Mon, 05 Jun 2006 10:40:00 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16238775 toadlife :
said by z9_87 See Profile :

hmm, first thing I thought of when I started reading it is has anyone ever tried making a open source version of windows from scratch, or reverse engineering it or something like that. A full blown free windows that runs windows apps like windows does. And I don't me like lindows. Now that would be crazy, especially if M$ didn't sue the crap out of the creator.
ReactOS
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said by TheAuthor :

Nit-picking, I know - but the "alt" of the FreeBSD logo is still set to "Linux"...
Ha, already ahead of you. I caught that myself last night and fixed it.

I also got the page to validate XHTML 1.1 so hopefully we're good for a while. ;)
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said by computx See Profile :

A lady I know was overheard telling a friend I use some sort of "rogue" operating system called linux. ;) Does calling it a rogue imply the user is also?
I hope so. I remember once reading an (ahem) BSD user trying to put down Linux with a slogan like "Linux: putting power in the wrong hands." Of course I took it as a compliment. :)

But it's amazing the slavish mindset some people have, especially when it comes to computers. Instead of thinking "What am I free to do?", they think "What am I supposed to do?".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16220059 Fri, 02 Jun 2006 06:58:18 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16219866 anon : Nit-picking, I know - but the "alt" of the FreeBSD logo is still set to "Linux"...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16219866 Fri, 02 Jun 2006 04:32:05 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16219129 computx :
... for some reason when trying to explain it to other people she always tells them "he uses something called solaris". I have no idea where that came from. :)
A lady I know was overheard telling a friend I use some sort of "rogue" operating system called linux. ;)
Does calling it a rogue imply the user is also?
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said by wmcbrine See Profile :

No... Mac OS X is loosely based on a FreeBSD userland, but with a Mach kernel. The result is distributed as "Darwin". "Aqua", on the other hand, is the GUI, and is not part of Darwin. It's based more or less on NextStep.
Given that they borrowed much of the UI from NeXTStep, it makes a decent amount of sense that they'd use a similar root for their kernel. :D

-tom
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said by fcisler See Profile :

* FreeBSD is almost as close to the original UNIX as you can get (without the original of course)
Dunno bout that... Berkely UNIXes, while derivative of older AT&T code, became fairly distinct from what later became "official" UNIX (SysVR3) - the stuff eventually owned by SCO, licences to Sun, IBM, SGI and a number of others and now contested in court.

said by fcisler See Profile :

i had a really nice timeline some time ago that detailed everything....really wish i could find it right now...
You mean like the one at »www.levenez.com/unix/?

-tom
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said by sremick See Profile :

You should get her a Solaris theme for her computer ;)
Why the hell would anyone want to run the Crappy Desktop Environment (or the old OpenLook, for that matter).

-tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16217553 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:08:45 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16217550 nixen :
said by sporkme See Profile :

The Solaris thing is some kind of strange brain fart I think. :)
That pretty much summed up how I felt when working for SGI.

-tom]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16217550 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 20:08:02 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16217217 wmcbrine :
said by fcisler See Profile :

* OSX is based upon BSD (freebsd if i'm not mistaken) and called aqua, again, IIRC
No... Mac OS X is loosely based on a FreeBSD userland, but with a Mach kernel. The result is distributed as "Darwin". "Aqua", on the other hand, is the GUI, and is not part of Darwin. It's based more or less on NextStep.

I can't agree with the over-yonder.net site, when it says "BSD is designed. Linux is grown. Perhaps that's the only succinct way to describe it, and possibly the most correct." It seems to me they were both "grown".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16217217 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:18:21 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16216581 fcisler : that last link is one of my favorite articles on the topic, actually! Your Ctrl + C and Ctrl + V does a good job though :p No, i really like that you took the time to put that all together...

Might wanna include a footnote or two about two not-very-known facts:

* OSX is based upon BSD (freebsd if i'm not mistaken) and called aqua, again, IIRC

* FreeBSD is almost as close to the original UNIX as you can get (without the original of course)

i had a really nice timeline some time ago that detailed everything....really wish i could find it right now...

I've wanted to draft up a FreeBSD vs OpenBSD vs NetBSD, but I haven't used NetBSD for a couple revisions.....any Net' user wants to work with me, i'd like to! When i build my NAS i'll be writing up a review of FreeBSD + 3ware 9550SX hardware raid setup :p Once I get the carbon fiber, resin, and finish my case layout (oh....yes....carbon fiber case)....woah...too many projects...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16216581 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 17:47:01 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16216088 sremick :
said by wmcbrine See Profile :

But now you need "FreeBSD is not Linux". (Should be much shorter.) :)
No need. It already exists:

»www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ra···nux1.php

It's actually much longer though, but it's a good site.
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said by sremick See Profile :

I don't pretend to be the author... it's mostly a find&replace job from the original "Linux is NOT Windows".
But now you need "FreeBSD is not Linux". (Should be much shorter.) :)

My girlfriend is also a MS user. I tried to explain the "open source" idea to her once, she said "I guess that's interesting if your a computer nerd, but, if you used that as a pick-up line, you would probably still be dating your hand".
Not everything in life is a pickup line.

P.S. Open source should be interesting to anyone who cares about freedom.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16216068 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 16:33:05 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16215668 sremick : You should get her a Solaris theme for her computer ;)
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said by sremick See Profile :

Hey, a gf who has heard of Solaris is almost as hot as one who uses FreeBSD. :D
Heh heh. She double-clicks the Dock icons on the Macs and still double-clicks links in webpages. The Solaris thing is some kind of strange brain fart I think. :)
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Usually things go something like this:

"What do you use if you don't use Windows or Mac?"
"I use FreeBSD."
*blank look*
"Umm, well ever heard of Linux?"
"Yeah."
"Well, it's not Linux, but it's more like Linux than it's like Windows."
"Oh..."
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»vtbsd.net/winhelp/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16215205 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:42:23 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16215196 anon : > Dude, how'd you get a girlfriend?

Handed her a bottle of vodka & hoped for the best ;)

> Dude, how'd you get a girlfriend who uses FreeBSD?

She wanted something that would run a lot better on her hardware than that *cough* other *cough* OS. But she didn't want Linux because she says I'm unbearable when I know everything & she doesn't :)

So I pointed her at FreeBSD, which I never did get to work properly, and she got on well with that..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16215196 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:41:16 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16215163 Steve :
said by sporkme See Profile :

she always tells them "he uses something called solaris". I have no idea where that came from. :)
Maybe she's spending time with him? :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16215163 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:37:06 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16215137 sporkme :
said by sremick See Profile :

She has quizzed me in-depth about my desktop though, asking why I don't use Windows and questions about what I do run.
Same here, my fiancee has asked about the unix desktop thing and for some reason when trying to explain it to other people she always tells them "he uses something called solaris". I have no idea where that came from. :)
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She's going to law school and I don't think me replacing XP on her laptop with FreeBSD would go over to well. Heh.
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said by sremick See Profile :

Dude, how'd you get a girlfriend who uses FreeBSD?
He's a computer geek, so the question should be:
Dude, how'd you get a girlfriend?
;-)
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said by TheAuthor :

You could have an animated GIF switching between the two :)
Haha, or maybe one with the ball skewered on Beastie's pitchfork? :D

Dude, how'd you get a girlfriend who uses FreeBSD?
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»vtbsd.net/winhelp/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214853 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:56:16 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214832 anon : You could have an animated GIF switching between the two :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214832 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:53:17 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214819 sremick :
said by TheAuthor :

By the way, have you considered having the more-familiar daemon representing BSD rather than the bowling-ball-with-a-red-banana logo that is, after all, the newcomer? Even my FreeBSD-using gf didn't actually know about the new logo until I mentioned it to her...

(No offence meant to any fans of the bowling ball ;) )
Haha, actually I hate the "bowling ball". :D But I was trying to do the right thing... My version of the article refers to FreeBSD, and that IS the official FreeBSD logo whether we like it or not *shrug*. I considered using the "Beastie" daemon... and very well may switch it at some point. But I figured I'd try the ball for now and see how I felt about it.

The more I stare at it, the more I hate the ball...
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»vtbsd.net/winhelp/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214819 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:50:40 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214775 anon : > It's a great article you wrote.

Ty :)

> it validates again now

:D

By the way, have you considered having the more-familiar daemon representing BSD rather than the bowling-ball-with-a-red-banana logo that is, after all, the newcomer? Even my FreeBSD-using gf didn't actually know about the new logo until I mentioned it to her...

(No offence meant to any fans of the bowling ball ;) )]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214775 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:43:51 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214764 sybille :
said by sremick See Profile :

So basically, my version isn't done because of any technical/factual need, or to promote FreeBSD over Linux... it's purely superficial. So I'm not sure that any sort of introduction is necessary. For the purposes it'll be used, I think "getting to the meat" of things is more-important. As long as the original author is ok with how I went about it.
Yeah, I agree that as long as TheAuthor is OK with what you're doing then adding something is not a requirement. But I still think it would be interesting for people, even if you only said something about how you've found yourself suggesting the original article to people and that this is why you've wanted to publish it with the cosmetic changes. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214764 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:41:55 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214674 sremick : Well honestly, the only reason I made a FreeBSD version was cosmetic. The points in the original Linux version are somewhat generic across all unix-based non-Windows OSes. So I was finding myself in the FreeBSD community referring people frequently to the page, but somewhat hesitantly since it was branded "Linux" even though the relevant discussion was FreeBSD.

The edits I did other than find&replace were to simply make sure that the article remained factually-correct when applied to FreeBSD, not to fill in any sort of gaping void.

So basically, my version isn't done because of any technical/factual need, or to promote FreeBSD over Linux... it's purely superficial. So I'm not sure that any sort of introduction is necessary. For the purposes it'll be used, I think "getting to the meat" of things is more-important. As long as the original author is ok with how I went about it.

Incidentally, it validates again now. :)
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»vtbsd.net/winhelp/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214674 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:29:45 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214597 sybille : Hey, thanks for stopping by, TheAuthor. :) It's a great article you wrote.

sremick See Profile, what would you think about adding a paragraph at the top of the article that would explain why you've put up a FreeBSD version and also give more detail about the changes you've made to the original? Or maybe such a paragraph could go at the bottom, but I'd think it would be nice to avoid putting it down in the "fine print" area. I'd think that could be useful for the reader, and it would be interesting to hear some of your own Linux/FreeBSD thoughts.

Of course, it would be nice to hear whether TheAuthor has any thoughts about this proposal as well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214597 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:19:55 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214517 sremick :
said by TheAuthor :

> so I don't bring on the original author's wrath.

Don't worry - you haven't ;)
Haha, I get it now. Sorry, I'm slow today...

You seem to have broken the article's W3C compliance tho :(
Don't worry, that was already next on my to-do list (big proponent of standards here)
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»vtbsd.net/winhelp/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214517 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:03:48 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214470 anon : > so I don't bring on the original author's wrath.

Don't worry - you haven't ;)

You seem to have broken the article's W3C compliance tho :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214470 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:56:12 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214451 sremick :
said by TheAuthor :

Oh, c'mon: "/linux/freebsd/g" does not justify the title of "derivative work" :)

Page works fine for me, but a couple of images are broken..
Heh, well I'm just trying to adhere to the language set forth in the CC license, so I don't bring on the original author's wrath. "By the book", so to speak. :)

I did do some minor edits, but it is quite possible over time I will tweak it more. This is just a first shot.

Any image problems were just temporary, I already fixed them and everything should be working now.
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»vtbsd.net/winhelp/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214451 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:52:55 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214431 anon : I take it back, the images are fixed now - that was quick ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214431 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:49:25 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214417 bgrundy : I have a cached copy if you need it.

edit: posted too late...never mind]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214417 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:47:29 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214414 anon : Oh, c'mon: "/linux/freebsd/g" does not justify the title of "derivative work" :)

Page works fine for me, but a couple of images are broken..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214414 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:47:12 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214401 sremick : Ok I did it over again. Hopefully I got all my edits from last time.

I don't pretend to be the author... it's mostly a find&replace job from the original "Linux is NOT Windows". I just got tired of referring people to the Linux one and saying "just replace Linux with FreeBSD and it mostly fits". I figured, it's licensed under CC so why not make a FreeBSD version. :D

I did a few minor tweaks to un-Linuxify it, but if you find anything I missed please let me know. Thanks
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»vtbsd.net/winhelp/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214401 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:45:25 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214274 deblin : Unfortunately I visited it after Steve's post, which cached the empty copy, overwriting the old one :(
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So unless someone has a cached copy, I need to redo it.

Incidentally, this has been happening a lot with my webhost lately. They are in the process of moving from FreeBSD to Linux. Go figure.
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»vtbsd.net/winhelp/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214272 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:24:11 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214253 Steve :
said by deblin See Profile :

Probably just a hiccup :)
IIS, perhaps? :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214253 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:20:55 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214134 deblin : It was working, I was perusing it a few minutes ago. Probably just a hiccup :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214134 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:58:20 EDT Re: FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214123 Steve : A blank page might be helpful?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214123 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:56:57 EDT FreeBSD is not Windows http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16214061 sremick : For you FreeBSD users and advocates out there, I'd like to point you to something I (sorta) did up:

»vtbsd.net/notwindows.html

Maybe you'll find it of use for people you try to assist. :D
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