Re: A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r15978616 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:49:14 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:49:14 EDT Re: A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15980601 packetscan : It's disgusting isn't it.

Frankly I'm rather sick that it's allowed to continue.
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Who do you want to pay off today?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15980601 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:49:30 EDT Re: A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15980597 packetscan : I can't wait for the day someone @ bbr pulls your card.
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Who do you want to pay off today?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15980597 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:48:26 EDT Re: A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15979113 cob_ : That's another little something these telcos seem to like to exclude - the content provider's peering and hosting costs, which I'm sure quite a bit of trickles back into the telco's pocket, at least AT&T and Verizon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15979113 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:58:25 EDT Re: A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15978616 ross :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Looks like almost everybody got something in today's committee action to rewrite the telcomm act of 1996.

The Muni-wifi crowd get to erase laws in 14 states that prevents cities from providing internet access with public money. But bad news for taxpayers in some of those cities that might get a go ahead to stick them for overpriced systems. Luckily, most cities have dropped the idea of taxpayer funded muni systems and have switched to ad-supported or for-pay systems.

The telcos and cable companies get a reprieve from draconian net neutrality laws that try to make them the b`tches of the content providers.

And the ISPs get to roll out their products without giving cities the power to tell them who they have to provide service to. ISPs can now schedule rollouts so that the areas most likely to generate profits come first.

The only losers, apparently, are the content providers. They didn't get anything they want. They better start figuring out how to charge for their product, because they won't be able to make the ISPs carry a majority of the costs if this law passes.

Of course, this is only the beginning of the game. The whole House of Representatives have to pass it. And then the Senate must pass their version. And then a compromise bill must be agreed to in House/Senate negotiations. And then the compromise must be passed by both Houses of Congress. With all that, we may not get any bill this year. And then it would start all over again in 2007 with a whole new Congress.
No one but the telecom industry won anything in the defeat of the amendments to the "Telco-Communications Opportunity to implement "final solution" to competition, Promotion of Telco Oligopolist self-interest, providing for the degradation and/or denial of technological advancements and Enhancements, both current and future, and socially destructive practices Act of 2006" today because the Act itself still breathes; steam-rolling along like every other industry-serving, anti-consumer, pork-barreling steaming-turd of predatory capitalism served up and foisted upon the American public by this administration and its industry-owned appointees.

EVERYONE else loses!

The Telcos will continue to rail against and sue, ad infinitum, any/all Muni-WiFi projects into oblivion, or "promo-rate" them out of business with targeted, locally discounted service unavailable in other Telco service areas.

The Telcos will continue to red-line economically unprofitable services areas in violation of their obligations under Universal Service regulations; which slush funds they continue to suck out of the wallets of all consumers without oversight, accounting or benefit to consumers.

Everyone else loses as the Telcos convert the information superhighway into a miasmatic labyrinth of dirt lanes, gravel tracks and cul de sacs replete with toll booths, tariffs and surcharges of every description for every bit, byte, and packet of digital interaction traversing the synapses of the Internet, effectively double- and triple-dipping by surcharging all parties for services already subscribed and paid for at both ends of every link. Any trickle of utility remaining will be pummeled to death by the wardens of the DMCA.

Fateful words these:

"Of course, this is only the beginning of the game."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15978616 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:05:09 EDT Re: A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15978588 Techman21 : Why does that sound eerily familiar? Oh yeah that gas thing going on...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15978588 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:48:06 EDT Re: A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15978083 Kearnstd : Google costs the ISPs nothing, Youtube costs the ISPs nothing, XM Internet stream costs the ISPs nothing.

why? because not only do these content providers have to pay for their pipe but the person getting the content is overpaying for their pipe. basicly the costs are covered, and the communications industry cant say otherwise because they are making tons of money in the profit department(i mean their VPs make close to a million or more a year)
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[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15978083 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:32:49 EDT Re: A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15977423 TScheisskopf : Remarkable. Simply remarkable.

You really *are* an astroturfer, aren't you?

Oh, the only losers are the vast majority of the citizens, who already pay a lot of money for their Internet access.

But it seems that those people, the real funders of the Internet, are the lowest common denominator to you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15977423 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:48:47 EDT Re: A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15977244 cob_ :
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The only losers, apparently, are the content providers. They didn't get anything they want. They better start figuring out how to charge for their product, because they won't be able to make the ISPs carry a majority of the costs if this law passes.


And just how do ISPs bear the costs of content providers providing content? They're apparently trying to make themselves obsolete - without content, there is no reason to access the Internet, and I bet you can figure out what people will do with their DSL and cable Internet access if there's nothing they need it for.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15977244 Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:23:42 EDT A little something for everybody in today's cmmttee action http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15977192 TKJunkMail : Looks like almost everybody got something in today's committee action to rewrite the telcomm act of 1996.

The Muni-wifi crowd get to erase laws in 14 states that prevents cities from providing internet access with public money. But bad news for taxpayers in some of those cities that might get a go ahead to stick them for overpriced systems. Luckily, most cities have dropped the idea of taxpayer funded muni systems and have switched to ad-supported or for-pay systems.

The telcos and cable companies get a reprieve from draconian net neutrality laws that try to make them the b`tches of the content providers.

And the ISPs get to roll out their products without giving cities the power to tell them who they have to provide service to. ISPs can now schedule rollouts so that the areas most likely to generate profits come first.

The only losers, apparently, are the content providers. They didn't get anything they want. They better start figuring out how to charge for their product, because they won't be able to make the ISPs carry a majority of the costs if this law passes.

Of course, this is only the beginning of the game. The whole House of Representatives have to pass it. And then the Senate must pass their version. And then a compromise bill must be agreed to in House/Senate negotiations. And then the compromise must be passed by both Houses of Congress. With all that, we may not get any bill this year. And then it would start all over again in 2007 with a whole new Congress.
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