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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:42:25 EDT

said by dvd536 :

Thats a fine attitude until we help make them smart and then OUR jobs go over there to people that can do them as well as us but get paid like $3.50 a day.

Hate to break it you kid, but that's been happening for quite some time now. Guess we should make ourselves smart...?
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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:13:24 EDT

TKJunkMail :

said by tapeloop :

Funny that you can say the same thing about a lot of first world Mormons and Catholics too. :o

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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:08:19 EDT

tapeloop :

said by Asmodeus :

most 3rd worlders don't even use condoms much less know what a condom is...

Funny that you can say the same thing about a lot of first world Mormons and Catholics too. :o
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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:30:15 EDT

anon : Most of the 3rd World population that can read and write can afford $300 for a low end PC. Why I think they can afford $300 computer is because most of your backend work is being outsourced to these people and they already own $400 Mobile phones on GSM networks.

The population that is illiterate cannot even read or write, leave alone work on computers.

So, $100 computer will not have any genuine buyers except some currupt 3rd world gov or NGOs who would be interested in large scale scams.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:37:18 EDT

jap :

said by LinuxJunkie :

That's what you're implying

I am?

I defy you to explain the implication you accuse me of. It's simply not there.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:28:11 EDT

LinuxJunkie : And they know everything about us? That's what you're implying and that's also ignorant.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:53:30 EDT

DataRiker : haha, good post Combat Chunk. Sad to see people hate America so much as to ignore the facts. The largest private donations to Asia and Africa go largely unnoticed, yet year after year Americans still give. Regardless how you feel about the American government, its wrong to distort the facts about private American charitable donations, many of which go undocumented.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:26:23 EDT

anon : But they don't have Internet connectivity. Oh, wait, that'll be the next U.N. project: provide access to the Internet to all citizens of the third world. The U.N. does a piss-poor job of fixing third world problems partly because it's dominated by the "leaders" of those countries who are largely responsible for the problems in the first place.

Until we get past the jealousy and finger-pointing about whose blame third-world poverty is and get people to start accepting responsibility for their own problems, it'll never change. In the meantime, let's keep handing out free notebook computers to people who don't have the energy to turn the crank because they don't have enough to eat. That may not really improve their situation, but it'll make some people in the western countries feel less guilty about being better off.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:50:51 EDT

Speedy8 :

said by reub2000 :

said by novaflare :

said by dave :

This would be the same Intel that has convinced most people that they need (Intel) CPUs in the 2-to-3 GHz range for adequate web access, right?

Lol dave and so true. Look at the specs on compaq computers 3 ghz cpu 256 megs ram and no vid card listed. No vid listed because it uses on board vid totaling as high as 32 megs some times. Essentialy you got hugely fast and powerful cpus (arguably) but can never hope to make use of it all. Dell gateway and other big names are no better. Many are useing sub 60 gig hds still. I can legaly fill a 60 gig hd up in a few days. Computer market for off the shelf computers these days is over priced under powered (do to mis matched specs) door stops.....

It's not just gamers who need power. A high end CPU is not hindered in non-graphic intensive applications by an intergrated video card. Stuff like compiling applicatons and transcoding video are perfect examples.

I think the main problem is the low amount of ram. I mean seriously, an average user with an older 1.8ghz P4 with a gig of ram will probably have a lot better experience than one with a 3ghz p4 and only 256MB of ram.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sun, 11 Dec 2005 04:09:56 EDT

reub2000 :

said by novaflare :

said by dave :

This would be the same Intel that has convinced most people that they need (Intel) CPUs in the 2-to-3 GHz range for adequate web access, right?

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sun, 11 Dec 2005 03:55:55 EDT

jap :

said by Asmodeus :

most 3rd worlders don't even use condoms much less know what a condom is..

Ignorant statement that.

A safer statement would be "most first worlders don't know the first fucking thing about the lives of most third-worlders".

And, in this case, the f-word plays a nice dual role. :)

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:16:26 EDT

cdigioia : Well using a subjective word like uncivilized, being snide, and making sweeping statements about Americans I don't think will particularly educate anyone.

I think it depends on which developing nation one is talking about. The nations mentioned as the 1st to receive this are quite well setup already, which is probably why they are the first, as they are the easiest in which to implement the idea.

But the nations that need assistance the most, (think much of Africa) often have very high HIV infection rates and very low levels of capital investment, including such basic things as paved roadways. As such, the nations that need assistance the most, are going to be the ones that can make the least use of such a laptop.

I would imagine it would be much more beneficial for many nations, African especially, to have for instance, US farm subsidies done away first, so that the farmers can better compete and better provide for a basic economy.

We're not talking about there being a problem shipping laptops to Mexico or Argentina. I think the point is that there won't be the infrastructure to support these laptops in the nations which need help the most.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:16:11 EDT

MsGeek :

said by LOsErLuKiN :

Hand-cranked? I'm scared.

Nothing to be afraid of. Hell, I want one of these. I want a power supply mod that will give me this capability with my existing lappies.

Imagine if you are running low on battery power and you are in a public park...with WiFi...and there's no place to plug in? Get the crank out. Apply elbow grease for 10 minutes, and you're back surfing the web.

As they say in Japan...sugoi, neh?

Negroponte is talking about selling these puppies in the First World for $200 or thereabouts to make the project self-supporting. It might not be the latest and greatest ThinkPad or aluminum Powerbook but it wouldn't be a half bad PDA replacement.

And yes! It runs Linux! w00t.
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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:11:57 EDT

dave :

said by jebba2005 :

how will it work in 110 degree heat?

No problem there, only the US has 110 degree heat.

(The rest of the world calls it 43, but the US is kinda backwards on measuring things).

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:44:52 EDT

novaflare :

said by dave :

This would be the same Intel that has convinced most people that they need (Intel) CPUs in the 2-to-3 GHz range for adequate web access, right?

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:36:06 EDT

Eat Me : You've obviously never lived in a 3rd world country.

I'll forgive you. Most Americans figure anywhere outside of the USA, Europe and parts of Asia are uncivilized.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:33:48 EDT

Combat Chuck : oops...sorry professor, perhaps you should read the sources before you cite them. It took me less than a minute to find:
»www.globalissues.org/TradeRelate···ibutions

pay particular attention to

quote:
While Adelman admits that “there are no complete figures for international private giving” she still says that Americans are “clearly the most generous on earth in public — but especially in private — giving”. Hence these numbers and claims may be taken with caution, but even then, these are high numbers.

emphasis mine.

The only chart I can find that supports what you said is one based on estimating private contributions and then "penalizing" them for various subjective things. And if you are using subjective qualifiers in your study you can basically make the numbers come out however you want them to.
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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:20:43 EDT

kamm :

said by Fatal Vector :

Not to mention that, if the area has no electricity, where the hell are they going to get net access? That can be controlled by the government. Install a satellite station...that needs electricity, maintenance and, can be controlled by the government?

And, the thing looks...wellll creepy. All puke green and all. Looks like a childs toy. Jeez what a waste of money. But then, they are just trying to get away from the food for oil scandal. It all SOUNDS good and all, but implimenting it is where the failure will come.

You guys are really pathtetic, seriously. What's up, are you scared of another 400M+ kid willb e smarter than you maybe? :D

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:32:24 EDT

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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:28:50 EDT

Fatal Vector :
Not to mention that, if the area has no electricity, where the hell are they going to get net access? That can be controlled by the government. Install a satellite station...that needs electricity, maintenance and, can be controlled by the government?

And, the thing looks...wellll creepy. All puke green and all. Looks like a childs toy. Jeez what a waste of money. But then, they are just trying to get away from the food for oil scandal. It all SOUNDS good and all, but implimenting it is where the failure will come.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:03:52 EDT

GDF_Slash : We should send the Intel Chairman to Cambodia or some other third world country for 10 years. I'm sure that will make him rethink his statement he made.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:02:20 EDT

kamm : That's the problem: it's worst - it's both together.

»www.globalissues.org/TradeRelate···SAid.asp

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:34:33 EDT

theeinstein : STOP HAVING KIDS!!!!

That doesn't take anything but sense!

Who are we (Americans) the third world police? I agree if it doesn't come from our tax dollars who cares. In all the years you see any country jumping up to help us? All they do is piss and moan about what we shouldn't do then we do it and they want a piece of the cake!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I say SCREW THEM!

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:21:54 EDT

anon : Fucking moderators. Enjoy the left side of the asile :uhh:

Dave, if for some crazy reason this appears, it has nothing to do with you. Just some liberal tightass who can't stand to hear an opposing view.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:17:22 EDT

Combat Chuck :

said by kamm :

Of course, because we simply refuse to match with Sweden or other countries per-capita charity.

Link? I'd like to see if that's government mandated charity or freely given charity.
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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:07:12 EDT

Combat Chuck :

said by G_Poobah :

Keep em dumb, keep em ignorant, that's the way to win.

Cause, as we all know, laptops are the only way to learn anything.

I mean, when you're starving to death and about to die of Malaria, it'll really help out if you can order a Papa Johns and look up the drugs you can't get on WebMD.

PS: before you go into another raving rant about the **AA's and keeping the rest of the world ignorant let me point out 2 things:
1. 100$ goes a lot further in other countries than it does in the developed world...even further if you give it to someone who knows how to get others on board his mission.
2. 100$ worth of books are less fragile and can be easily passed from person to person potentially bringing knowledge to thousands of people. (Not to mention books don't need to find net access to be useful)
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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:03:48 EDT

dvd536 :

said by G_Poobah :

Keep em dumb, keep em ignorant, that's the way to win. Why waste money on something that will allow them to raise their quality of life. Stuff like medical books, or agricultural books, or even cheap laptops are wasted on 'those people of disadvantaged reasons'. Spend the money on rice, you can always withhold the food if they start to act up or complain about living conditions. God forbid the 'disadvantaged regions' should access modern information, or use a product in a manner that we, the all powerful leaders, don't see fit. We need to control everything they do, and not give them the tools to think for themselves. That's how revolutions start, and that would be a bad thing for those in power. The **AA's realize this, and so do the would be baby doc duvaliers and his retire-rich cronies.

Thats a fine attitude until we help make them smart and then OUR jobs go over there to people that can do them as well as us but get paid like $3.50 a day.
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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:02:46 EDT

cdigioia :

said by dave :

said by hamburglar_ :

(..) if you barely even have shelter to keep it from getting wet in the rain?

Where the hell did you get that from?

They're just saying that 3rd world countries have much more basic/important things to take care of, long before laptops.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:48:20 EDT

reub2000 :

said by Asmodeus :

most 3rd worlders don't even use condoms much less know what a condom is...

They can now google or wiki it on their new laptop.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:40:06 EDT

kamm :

said by upidstay :

As long as the money to fund the program isnt from U.S. taxpayer dollars, let them do whatever they want in those third world countries.

Of course, because we simply refuse to match with Sweden or other countries per-capita charity.

You're the classic example why rest of the world think we are greedy arrogant MFs. Less irch countries give more than we do for poor and/or unfortunate contries.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CPU

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:01:36 EDT

anon : As long as the money to fund the program isnt from U.S. taxpayer dollars, let them do whatever they want in those third world countries.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:57:24 EDT

LOsErLuKiN : Hand-cranked? I'm scared.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:45:06 EDT

Asmodeus : most 3rd worlders don't even use condoms much less know what a condom is...

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:32:24 EDT

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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:21:12 EDT

WareWolF2k :

said by dave :

This would be the same Intel that has convinced most people that they need (Intel) CPUs in the 2-to-3 GHz range for adequate web access, right?

Thanks to microsoft & symantec, they do!

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CPU

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:15:45 EDT

morbo :

said by CPM :

I agree $100.00 can by a lot of rice and condoms.

emphasis on the condom part
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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:15:35 EDT

G_Poobah : Keep em dumb, keep em ignorant, that's the way to win. Why waste money on something that will allow them to raise their quality of life. Stuff like medical books, or agricultural books, or even cheap laptops are wasted on 'those people of disadvantaged reasons'. Spend the money on rice, you can always withhold the food if they start to act up or complain about living conditions. God forbid the 'disadvantaged regions' should access modern information, or use a product in a manner that we, the all powerful leaders, don't see fit. We need to control everything they do, and not give them the tools to think for themselves. That's how revolutions start, and that would be a bad thing for those in power. The **AA's realize this, and so do the would be baby doc duvaliers and his retire-rich cronies.
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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:15:05 EDT

dave :

said by hamburglar_ :

(..) if you barely even have shelter to keep it from getting wet in the rain?

Where the hell did you get that from?

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:14:55 EDT

kamm : There are plenty of other programs for healthcare and such.

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CPU

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:09:31 EDT

hamburglar_ : ...and infrastructure, maybe?

"are intended to bring computer access to areas that lack reliable electricity"

They are putting the cart before the horse. What good is a laptop if you barely even have shelter to keep it from getting wet in the rain?

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:56:27 EDT

dave : This would be the same Intel that has convinced most people that they need (Intel) CPUs in the 2-to-3 GHz range for adequate web access, right?

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:42:25 EDT

jebba2005 : how will it work in 110 degree heat?

Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CPU

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:33:27 EDT

CPM : I agree $100.00 can by a lot of rice and condoms.

I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CPU

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:30:20 EDT

TKJunkMail : I'm just guessing now. But I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that the $100 laptop doesn't have an Intel processor. :p I don't agree with the Intel chairman's assessment of why the $100 laptop is a bad idea. But that doesn't mean I agree that the best use of UN and developing nations money is in the purchase of laptops for disadvantaged regions. That money can be better spent on improving agriculture, healthcare, etc.
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