Re: [XP Pro] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issu in Networking http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r14848874 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:34:30 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:34:30 EDT Re: [winxp] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15602074 B777300 : Nice.. :)

And symantec products are crap, the uninstallers always leave something behind.
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I finally figured out what was causing me not to connect! After much research and allot of thinking back to how the systems were set up originally I found only one common thing, all of the system had some norton product on it which I had removed along with anything else norton and symantec that was in the add/remove programs list.

After hearing about several people who were having problems completely removing symantec products from their pc (all of which I supplied them with this link: »service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ni···10510636) I decided to take my own advice and run the symantec software removal tool RnisUPG.exe. After running the tool and rebooting I can now, finally access two systems that previously I could not access!!!!

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and screw you symantec!!!!!!!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15600904 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:57:11 EDT Re: [winxp] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15580794 ivwshane2 : I know this is an old post but I've got the same problem again but at a difference office.

I've tried everything but some pc's will not allow a remote connection from outside the lan (from the lan it works).

One thing the systems may of had in common was that they all (from what I remember) had norton install (NAV or maybe the security suite) but I uninstalled them and removed any thing related to symantec and norton that was in the add/remove programs list.

If I uninstalled the program and deleted it's program folder is there still a possibility that norton is somehow blocking wan rdp connections?

Telneting to the problem pc from the internet gives me a connection failed message. So it seems like the port is being blocked but could possibly be blocking it?

Again other computers on the lan are setup the exact same way, firewall turned off, no av soft, custom rdp ports, ports are forwarded and all can be accessed from the lan and from the internet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15580794 Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:16:30 EDT Re: [winxp] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15066614 SoonerAl : I would look in the event & firewall logs on the problematic RDP host PC to see if there happen to be any clues to what is failing. This page has some logging information...

»theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/R···ing.html

Your right in that port forwarding on your router have no meaning as far as connecting to local PCs from another local PC. Make sure you use the local static LAN IP of the problematic PC when calling over the local LAN.

»theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/R···sic.html

Have you also tried to simply disable/turn off the Windows Firewall on the problematic PC?

Have you tried to connect the problematic PC to your LAN via a wired Ethernet connection and test?

Are you running any other software firewall, NAV 2005 worm protection and/or OneCare Live Beta on the problematic PC?

I am unfamiliar with the setting in the Microsoft Firewall program specifically for wireless connections...

Further help with the XP SP2 Windows Firewall...

»support.microsoft.com/default.as···s;875357

Lastly, are you running the latest video drivers on the problematic PC?
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I want to use my Dell X300 laptop, which has 802.11G and is running XP-Home as the RDP client to my other 4 desktop computers.
3 of these other computers are wired to a SMC 8505 10/100/1000 switch.
The 4th computer has a Microsoft 802.11g USB access device.
All 4 computers are running XP-Prof, so can act as RDP servers.

The problem RDP connection is from the laptop client to the wireless RDP host.
The laptop can RDP into any of the other computers.

The wiring is from the cable line to a Motorola cable modem.
The cable modem is connected to the WAN port of a Linksys WRT54g
One of the wired Lan ports of the LInksys is connected to a SMS 8505 10/100/1000 switch.

Questions:
Since all my computers involved in RDP are on my LAN, I should NOT have use port forwarding on the Linksys WRT54G?
Is that correct?
There is a setting in the Microsoft Firewall program specifically for wireless connections.
I used that and checked the RDP box.
All this on the wireless problematic RDP server machine.
That did not work.
I DO GET A RDP LOGON screen, but when I key in the user name (as administrative account) and the password I get knocked out with no message !!
When I deliberately try to log on with a bad user name and/or password I do get a bad log on message.
So it looks to me like a get into the RDP server with the administrator account but get knocked out with no messages.

I enabled Microsoft's firewall logging.
Here is a snippet:

#Version: 1.5
#Software: Microsoft Windows Firewall
#Time Format: Local
#Fields: date time action protocol src-ip dst-ip src-port dst-port size tcpflags tcpsyn tcpack tcpwin icmptype icmpcode info path

2005-12-18 16:33:09 DROP UDP 192.168.1.101 255.255.255.255 1032 1211 118 - - - - - - - RECEIVE
2005-12-18 16:33:12 DROP UDP 192.168.1.102 255.255.255.255 1036 1211 118 - - - - - - - RECEIVE
2005-12-18 16:33:25 OPEN UDP 192.168.1.104 192.168.1.101 137 137 - - - - - - - - -
2005-12-18 16:33:26 OPEN-INBOUND TCP 192.168.1.101 192.168.1.104 1100 3389 - - - - - - - - -
2005-12-18 16:33:29 DROP UDP 192.168.1.101 255.255.255.255 1032 1211 118 - - - - - - - RECEIVE
2005-12-18 16:33:32 CLOSE TCP 192.168.1.104 192.168.1.101 3389 1100 - - - -

My laptop is 192...101 and the problematic RDP wireless server is 192...104.
I think RDP only uses TCP, so the UDP entries are not the problem.
The 16:33:32 CLOSE TCP etc entry I think is when I clicked "close" on the client computer after being bounced out of the wireless RDP client.
Can you make anything out of this?

When I use one of the wired machines, I cannot RDP into the wireless RDP server either.
And when I use one of the wired machines I CAN RDP into the other wired RDP server.

So it would seem the problem is with the wireless XP PRO machines ability to act as an RDP server with any of the other machines on my LAN.

I AM ABLE to use this problem wireless RDP server machine as a wireless RDP client to the other wired machines acting as RDP servers! Go figure. That may be a clue for some guru here. What would allow the wireless XP-Professional machine to act as wireless RDP client, but not as wireless RDP server?

Sorry to be so long winded here, but I thought you might have some insights.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15060784 Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:32:29 EDT Re: [winxp] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14871340 ivwshane2 : Well I finally got it working.

Unfortunately I'm still not quit sure what it was.

I know it wasn't the router or the modem but with windows itself.

After a format and reinstall and all the windows updates I now have remote destkop on two machines (the others will get formatted as well).

Thanks for everyones help!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14871340 Wed, 23 Nov 2005 23:17:15 EDT Re: [winxp] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14858337 SoonerAl :
said by ivwshane2 See Profile :

Port 80? I'm not forwarding port 80.

I thought that was only if you plan on using the remote desktop web client.
Your correct. If your not using the web based Remote Desktop method then you don't need to worry about TCP Port 80.
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I thought that was only if you plan on using the remote desktop web client.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14857110 Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:56:20 EDT Re: [winxp] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14855832 nguyen27 : Which IP did your port 80 forward to? I'm not surprise if the port 80 forward to the PC that you're able to connect from outside?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14855832 Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:11:24 EDT Re: [winxp] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issue http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14855808 ivwshane2 : When I login I do specify ports like the above pic.

SoonerAl I followed that to a t.

There has to be something else I'm not configuring on the netopia as I have eliminated all other hardware and software. It just doesn't make sense that only one port wouldn't get filtered but all the others would.

I have also posted a similar post on the netopia forum, hopefully someone there will be able to see my mistake.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14855808 Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:08:14 EDT Re: [winxp] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14851623 nguyen27 : One thing I'm not sure if you tried it, but for example if you connect to a machine from outside, and that machine have a non-standard RDP port let said you set it on 3390, you do need to specified in the RDP connection to say

myipaddress.com:3390
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14851623 Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:00:45 EDT Re: [winxp] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14850959 SoonerAl : Have you seen this document from Netopia?

»www.netopia.com/support/hardware···015.html

Others...

»www.netopia.com/support/resource···546.html
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It comes down to an issue with the modem port forwarding properly, since you have isolated by removing the router.

I presume your testing remote access through the modem/router from a remote PC and not from a local PC using the public IP of the router.

Have you checked in with the Netopia forum for help with the modem?

»Netopia/Cayman

By the way, you don't need to forward UDP ports for Remote Desktop. Only the TCP Ports...
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This is so frustrating!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14850340 Mon, 21 Nov 2005 01:11:13 EDT Re: [XP Pro] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issu http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14850322 ivwshane2 : I'll give it a shot.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14850322 Mon, 21 Nov 2005 01:03:01 EDT Re: [winxp] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14849944 ChiTang : I am not sure if it applies here. I do remember that (may be older linksys model) for port forwarding to work properly. DHCP need to be disabled. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14849944 Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:42:50 EDT Re: [XP Pro] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issu http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14849181 ivwshane2 : All ports except the one I can connect to, fail.

I'm not sure what could be configured wrong on the router.

Here is a pic of the port forwarding page, if this is setup right then it means that it's something on the netopia that isn't right.

»members.dslextreme.com/users/ivw···ding.GIF]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14849181 Sun, 20 Nov 2005 21:38:44 EDT Re: [XP Pro] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848972 SoonerAl : On each PC go to the »www.canyouseeme.org site and see if the test passes. If the test fails then it comes down to an issue on the modem or router not forwarding the ports correctly.

A work around is to setup a VPN or SSH tunnel and access each PC through the tunnel, ie. in the case of SSH you only need one port open.

»theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/R···RDP.html

Personally I use CopSSH and Tunnelier to do just that...

»Re: The most secure way to use Windows Remote Desktop
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Should I have the mods move this topic or just repost it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848874 Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:55:45 EDT Re: [XP Pro] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issu http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848868 army dude : Thats a weird problem. You mght try posting in the networking forum, might have someone there who had this happen before. Sorry I couldn't help you out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848868 Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:54:53 EDT Re: [XP Pro] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issu http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848842 ivwshane2 : Nope, custom as well.

I eliminated the linksys router and it was the same thing. And putting the netopia router in bridge mode should also eliminate that as the cause as well. Unless I haven't setup either of the routers properly I can't figure out any other possibilities.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848842 Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:51:17 EDT Re: [XP Pro] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issu http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848794 army dude : Well, I don't think formatting PC's is the way to go. If they work OK an the LAN, then they work.

I would be looking at the router as the source of the problem. Is the one PC that works listening on the default RDP port, by chance? (3389)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848794 Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:44:51 EDT Re: [XP Pro] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issu http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848763 ivwshane2 : Yes.

And I specify the port when I try to connect from the internet.

I can also connect to each computer on the lan either by IP or by computer name.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848763 Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:40:28 EDT Re: [XP Pro] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848747 army dude : When you connect to one PC from another within your LAN, do you have to specify the custom port when you conect?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848747 Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:38:30 EDT [winxp] Remote desktop and multiple pc's issues http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848651 ivwshane2 : I've found a lot of good info in these threads so I hope you guys can help.

I have five pc's on a LAN in the same workgroup all configured with static IP's and set with unique RDP ports.
I have a linksys wrt51 router set to forward each individual RDP port to their respective IP's. The WAN port of the linksys is connected to a netopia 3546 that is set to bridge mode.

I can connect to every pc on the LAN from every pc on the LAN but when I connect from the internet (from outside of the LAN) I can only connect to one pc.

I have windows firewall turned off on all machines.

I've tried the same setup but without the linksys and just used a hub but the results were the same.

I can't think of anything else it could be, I'm short of formatting all the pc's.

Does anyone have any ideas?:(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14848651 Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:27:51 EDT