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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/525357"><b>DSL Oberst</b></A> : Earthlink's American-based outsource receive payment of approximately $9/hr [San Antonio and Omaha outsource]. Considering that Earthlink is billing the outsource company at a rate of $12/hr, I'd say that [combined with what I've seen in my own experience] most contract employees see about 60-80%. I'd tend more towards the low side; Earthlink tends to have higher pay than comparable companies.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:11:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698757"><b>nixen</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  rradina <A HREF="/useremail/u/182519"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>Consulting companies certainly get a decent cut but unless it's a bad deal (like my Indian associate or the college grad) or a low utilization position, the worker generally gets a fair share of the billable rate.<br> </DIV>Or, unless it's a salaried position for which the individual engagement rates vary and utilization varies week to week.<br><br>-tom<br><SMALL>--<br>"Some people have morals, standards and ideals about quality, but I'm an American: I couldn't care less." --Tony Pierce (paraphrased)<I></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:09:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/182519"><b>rradina</b></A> : Unless we're talking a fresh college grad working for a large national firm that's billing $150/hour and paying  peanuts or a position where work is not constant (10 or 20 hours/week max), that shouldn't be the case.  As a software developer (consistent 40+ hour weeks) I contracted from 1993 to 2001 and depending on the firm, I was directly paid anywhere from 50% to 70% of my rate.  This is with 401K matching and benefits.<br><br>Consulting companies certainly get a decent cut but unless it's a bad deal (like my Indian associate or the college grad) or a low utilization position, the worker generally gets a fair share of the billable rate.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:00:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : .85 cents american buys 1 canadian dollar]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:58:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/698757"><b>nixen</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  rradina <A HREF="/useremail/u/182519"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><br><br>We pay $105/hour for one poor fellow.  He sees less than half that.</DIV>Umm... What percentage do you think a US citizen gets as an employee of a consulting company? The <I>only</I> way a consultant ever sees more than a small fraction is if he's a direct contractor (i.e., 1099'ed directly to the end-employer).<br><br>-tom<br><SMALL>--<br>"Some people have morals, standards and ideals about quality, but I'm an American: I couldn't care less." --Tony Pierce (paraphrased)<I></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:17:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/182519"><b>rradina</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Thaler <A HREF="/useremail/u/945359"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  vpoko <A HREF="/useremail/u/835408"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</SMALL><BR><BR>Tough to care too much when you're making $15/hr and management is only concerned with how many calls-per-hour you take, no?</DIV>They pay Indians that much? Holy crap! I thought we outsourced in order to <B>save</B> money?<br><br>(edit) Wait...this is Canadian money. Um, what's the conversion rates over there again? Unless it's 3x+, it's still better paying than minimum wage here.<br> </DIV><BR><br><br>Local outsource firm bills: $15/hour<br>National outsource firm bills: $12/hour<br>India-based, US-owned outsource firm bills: $9/hour<br>India-based, Indian-owned outsource firm bills $6/hour<br>Indian worker makes: $3/hour<br><br>We have several Indian contractors who work for us.  They are not yet residents but they are working on their green card.  There are a lot of firms who specialize in the green card process.  We pay $105/hour for one poor fellow.  He sees less than half that.  He doesn't live in our metro area and has to pay his own travel and living expenses.  His billable rate goes through three contracting firms before what's left gets to him.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 14:32:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/835408"><b>vpoko</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Thaler <A HREF="/useremail/u/945359"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  vpoko <A HREF="/useremail/u/835408"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>   :</SMALL><BR><BR>Tough to care too much when you're making $15/hr and management is only concerned with how many calls-per-hour you take, no?</DIV>They pay Indians that much? Holy crap! I thought we outsourced in order to <B>save</B> money?<br><br>(edit) Wait...this is Canadian money. Um, what's the conversion rates over there again? Unless it's 3x+, it's still better paying than minimum wage here.<br> </DIV>I wasn't even talking about outsourced techs in India, the above is doubly true for them.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 14:10:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/945359"><b>Thaler</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  vpoko <A HREF="/useremail/u/835408"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</SMALL><BR><BR>Tough to care too much when you're making $15/hr and management is only concerned with how many calls-per-hour you take, no?</DIV>They pay Indians that much? Holy crap! I thought we outsourced in order to <B>save</B> money?<br><br>(edit) Wait...this is Canadian money. Um, what's the conversion rates over there again? Unless it's 3x+, it's still better paying than minimum wage here.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:55:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/835408"><b>vpoko</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  blueeyesm <A HREF="/useremail/u/870211"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</SMALL><BR><BR>... these techs are just like Rogers techs - not educated properly, not kept up-to-date, and not caring enough to find out.<br> </DIV>Tough to care too much when you're making $15/hr and management is only concerned with how many calls-per-hour you take, no?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:17:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2005 13:02:32 EDT</pubDate>
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