Throttling: Can we actually do anything about it? in Shaw http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r14716504 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 02:54:22 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 02:54:22 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about it? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14770266 anon : taken from the Terms of Use;

You must ensure that your activity while using the Services does not improperly restrict, inhibit or degrade any other customer’s use of the Services, nor represent (in the sole judgment of Shaw) an unusually large burden on the network itself, such as, but not limited to, peer to peer file sharing programs, serving streaming video or audio, mail, http, ftp, irc, dhcp servers, and multi-user interactive forums.

Also;

In addition, you must ensure that your activities do not improperly restrict, disrupt, inhibit, degrade or impede Shaw’s ability to deliver the Services and monitor the Services, backbone, network nodes, and/or other network services.

None of that has anything to do with caps.

Bittorrent does all of the above so Shaw is well within their rights to throttle all they want and every single Shaw customer agrees with that when they sign up and sign on the dotted line.

Not really much there to argue about.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14770266 Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:27:37 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14770035 stolen :
said by zod5000 See Profile :

i don't think he was referring to unlimited downloads, just that p2p throttling would seem to indicated its restricted access to the interent.
except that you can still access it. it's not blocked, it's "just" slowed down. Shaw's legal dept. still wins. :/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14770035 Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:00:16 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14769924 zod5000 : no i think you misunderstood the guys point, he was referring to the statement about unlimited access. Meaning it shouldn't be throttled. I think it was an entirely seperate entity from caps.

IE ok they can impose caps, but they should restrict what you can do with the cap. If its unlimited access, then you should be able to have access to everything on the internet your supposed to, including unlimited access to anything that uses p2p.

i don't think he was referring to unlimited downloads, just that p2p throttling would seem to indicated its restricted access to the interent.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14769924 Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:45:43 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about it? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14769844 anon : unlimited access means you can access the internet at any time not unlimited downloading. I think you need to read the terms of use before you start spouting off.

Here...have a read

»www.shaw.ca/en-ca/AboutShaw/Term···t.htm#q8]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14769844 Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:36:35 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14769409 Tikker_LoS : You also pay for a best effort service, quit whining]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14769409 Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:40:46 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14769304 anon : Wow, to the above poster, you sound like a FanBoi for Shaw.

Thing is, we pay for unlimited access, there should be no filtering of packets at all.
Shaw is breaking their own ToC, but of course being the greedy company they are, they have since changed them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14769304 Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:28:07 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14747274 EPRock9 : There could be several reasons why you are receiving poor upload/download speeds.

Please contact shaws technical support so they can check the levels on your modem, if they are poor they will be able to send out a technician to troubleshoot / repair / replace and return your connection back to the correct levels.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14747274 Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:15:15 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14731267 anon : Heh. I'm not mixing up kilobits and kilobytes, though I'm sure it's a common mistake. Something strange seems to have happened since I ran my last speed test last night, though. My download speed has nearly doubled. It's still not what you'd expect from a cable modem, and since my upload is still weak, it's not gonna help me with torrents, but here it is:

»/speedtests/12···31126590]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14731267 Fri, 04 Nov 2005 12:51:38 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about it? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14727673 Si_Civic : 700KB/s would be higher than 5.0Mb, so yes, he's talking about 700kb/s not Kb :)

kilobit, not kilobyte.
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Spoolmak Warrior ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14727673 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:16:29 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14727651 fdaiz : He might be talking about kiloBITS not bytes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14727651 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:13:30 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14727270 anon : SHAW's high speed inet is rated at 5Mb Downstream and 512Kb upstream so for you to get 700KB/sec download and 50-60KB/sec upload you have a perfectly fine connection. do you realize that with TELUS the max you cn get on a residential DSL line is 2.5Mb??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14727270 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:24:17 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14725141 Tikker_LoS : do a speed test here, and post a link

just to make sure you're not confusing kb and kB]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14725141 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:46:49 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14724037 anon : It's every aspect of my connection. I've run pretty much every internet speed test out there, and my download is never above 700kbps, and my upload never above 50kbps. I've e-mailed Shaw about it, but they're being less than co-operative.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14724037 Thu, 03 Nov 2005 14:11:39 EDT Re: Throttling: Can we actually do anything about it? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14717283 Tikker_LoS : is your upload throttled to 10k? or only your bit torrent uploads?

there's a difference]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14717283 Wed, 02 Nov 2005 16:37:18 EDT Throttling: Can we actually do anything about it? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14716504 anon : A couple of weeks ago all Shaw service in my area (Lethbridge) was down for a day or so. Since then, my speeds have been awful. At first I thought it was my machine, but I've done a barrage of tests since then, and between that and reading over this forum, I've concluded that the only logical explanation is throttling.

The real question is, can we do anything to curtail it? If we write enough angry letters and make enough angry phone calls, will it do anything? Probably not. Is there a precedent of an ISP caving to public pressure on this issue? I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous. I don't pay $40 a month so my upload can be limited to 10k/s. Unfortunately, the only other viable ISP in this area (Telus) is also a joke. So really, is there anything we can do about it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14716504 Wed, 02 Nov 2005 15:02:47 EDT