Verizon merely following the law in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r14438867 en Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:24:58 EDT Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:24:58 EDT Re: Verizon merely following the law http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14443052 anon : Its not their data, its just passing through their service just like the mail passes through the postoffice.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14443052 Sun, 25 Sep 2005 23:43:31 EDT Re: Verizon merely following the law http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14442749 John Galt :
said by G_Poobah See Profile :

...they they are snooping on my data...
Disney will probably assert that it is THEIR data...
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

If people don't like the law then they should get their congressman to change it.
HAHA that is funny, yes of course, lest write in and see if we can get it changed oh no better I will vote for the two candidates that seem to be the same. oh wait better I will try to become one and see if I can get a few haha did I say few, millions of dollars.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14442276 Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:37:09 EDT Re: Verizon merely following the law http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14441233 G_Poobah : Wrong answer there..

If the ISP is 'looking for markers', they they are snooping on my data, and THAT is a major infringement of my privacy. The USPS isn't allowed to read my mail without a warrant, the telephone company isn't allowed to record my calls without a warrant, why does Disney get a 'free pass' to illegally spy on it's customers?

What's the appeals process for the customer, if they are falsely accused?
Is Verizon liable if they accuse the wrong person?
Can Verizon be held liable for ALL infringement then?
If so, then what about comcast?
Who watches the watchers at verizon?
What's the process they use to determine what's infringing?

Hell, I AM a verizon shareholder, and as a shareholder, I think it's a dumbass idea. Why the hell should a company take on the responsibilities, costs, and worst of all, risks of the legal system? Verizon delivers data as a common carrier, they are not a nanny. This is nothing more than a case of digital blackmail by Disney. If Verizon is smart, they will immediately accuse someone, have it go to court, and deliberately loose. That would set a precedent to let them out of any forced agreement Disney made with them.
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Grand Poobah]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14441233 Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:00:35 EDT Verizon merely following the law http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14438867 TKJunkMail : Verizon is just following the law. If people don't like the law then they should get their congressman to change it. As far as the "Internet coding system", it sounds like they may have a way of embedding markers in the transmitted video content so that if a customer subsequently records and then UPLOADS that content it would be an automatic proof of copyright infringement.

If markers can be embedded in content, then ISP hardware could look for those markers on any data flowing from a customers IP address providing proof of illegal uploading. And even if it never turns into a civil lawsuit, Verizon could terminate repeat abusers internet access.
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