Re: Did I miss something? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r14353964 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:01:03 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:01:03 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14511108 anon : Yes, my iPod is no longer recognized. So I can't update imported or purchased music.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14511108 Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:00:13 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14444929 cointreauman : All

I downloaded ITunes 5 and on loading it onto my PC found a number of serious problems:

1. Connection to the Internet immediately faile
2. The ITunes 5 would not load and came up with a multitude of error reports
3. My pen drive and CD Rom burner were no longer accesible.
4. The Windows System became very unstable.

I tried the usaual of uninstalling the software, that did not work and reinstallation made things worse.

I decided to use system restore to take me back to v4.9 - no longer an option as it would seem that ITunes 5 had taken my system files to the cleaners.

A visit to the variouds IPOD and ITunes forums showed a slow but steady flow of complaints and grumbles.

I set about deleteing every single Apple type programme from my system and even contacted my ISP to fid out if anyone had reported a similar problem. My ISP tested my connection and stated that I was connected!!!

So I reinstalled on what was an Apple Clean machine and lo - sam problem.

I removed everything again and this time tried connecting to the internet - no problem and the whole home network was alive. Well that was on the day the new ITunes 5 was delivered.

I investigated the system and found this nasty piece of work called Bonjour Services and through that the realisation that this client was the probable cause of the problems. It was throwing random DNS calls at the router form within the PC to Router connection so that everything beyond the router was fin BUT the router homee side was being effectively subject to a Denialk of Service attach from this piece of TOXICWARE that Apple decided to bundle with ITunes and QT7.

So despite all that has been said Apple are to blame for this mess.

In passing - not all routers were having this problem nd a simple enough solution was there too - to go into the control panel and change the auto allocating of DNS details to Manual SElect. this worked as Bonjour was being ignored form then on. However, a lot of ISPs change their DNS servers and so you would need to go in and reiput the new numbers....

I hung on and waited for the patch - this duly arrived as (%.1 or 5.01) and so I eagerly installed it looking forward to getting back to enjoying my library of music.

Reult EXACTLY the same problems occurred. I could have spat nails and went through all the different variations but all that was being reported was that the installation failed and clicking on the ITunes icon brought the router crashing to the ground.

I flew into a rage and denounced Apple as the master conspirators - making me fall in love with my now-cippled IPOD Photo 60Gb and the convenience of porting music files around the house throug the network.....

I trawled through the internet forums and came across a short nite from a kind fellow traveler who experienced the same problem - He confirmed no longer was Bonjour Sevices loaded but that he discovered that there was a problem now between ITunes and QT7!!! Because Bonjour had been ripped away its BORG technology menat that the collective was damaged. There was an answer and that was to install QT V7.0.2 in its standalone format!

I did this form a strange link to the apple site - SUCCESS SUCCESS SUCCESS - THE FU&*ING THING WAS INSTALLED AND WORKING PROPERLY.

So just download the standalone over the ITUNES 5.0.1 installation it worked. xP + SP2 did not quibble.

I linked my IPOD and there it appeared in the smoother looking ITUNES interface.

All has been great since 1am yesterday!!!

Now there is another iissue

IN MUSIC STORE - WHERE has the shopping cart gone - I bought some music last night to celebrate and expected to review my purchases - no Shopping Trolley just a direct purchase and l and behold I bought a track I had already purchased before.

So my only revenge on Jobs and Apple -

I cancelled a purchase of 5 G5 systems today for my office. F&^k you Apple - I will also find a different Media Player - there will be better out there and I dont need your useless crap anymore. You see I worked out the time I spent sorting your SHI* out and applied my own rates for consultancy to the time spent. Pisses all over the cost of the IPOD and accessories I have bought. So I will EBAY my beloved IPOD and plough the money into something else that is not so up your Apple arses. It would have been cheaper to have thrown the whole kit and caboodle into the river.

Cointreauman

"If someone offers you an Apple - tell them to put it where the sun don't shine"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14444929 Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:43:27 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14442255 anon : Yah again another dumbass pipes up without first checking Apple's own site - god I can't stand jackasses like this. Apple has not only admitted that there are some major issues in iTune 5 for both Apple and PC users, but has 1 - released a temorary patch, and 2 - is working on another. The problems are not just limited to PC users either.
Therefore - based on their own statements, the problem is actually some poor programming/bug testing issues in the release itself.

And it's doubtful that you've installed it on that many systems - sounds more like some self serving BS to me to "fake" prove a pointless point. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14442255 Sun, 25 Sep 2005 21:33:48 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14431146 anon : You're a moron. If you took the time to actually browse Apple's site you would see that not only are hundreds of people with both Apples and PCs having problems currently with iTunes, but Apple has 1 - released a fix because of some major bugs in the iTunes software, and 2 - are currently working on another because an enormous number of bugs still exist. Being a fanboy doesn't help anybody so keep your idiocy quiet and go back to playing the thousands of games, using the multitude of software, and... oh wait, that's right you can't, you're using a Mac. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14431146 Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:09:23 EDT Re: No, you missed nothing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14422227 anon : I did pay for iTunes songs -- and plenty of them. No, I hadn't yet put then onto a player because I don't have one yet. I am somewhat computer savvy--when I was asked to upgrade as I had done before I did not see anticipate the ensuing crap-storm and I am just waiting for Apple to develop a fix that lasts long enough for me to save these files to a disc or another format if this is even still possible.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14422227 Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:53:54 EDT Re: No, you missed nothing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14420846 cbrigante2 :
said by mick mick :

Well for those who are interested, i did have my music backed on a Firewire drive, but that decided to go down too.
So, the reason i plugged my ipod into my PC was in an attempt to backup it up onto yet another drive, using the third party software.This ,by the way won't let me upload my paid-for music, and i can't open Ipod in Explorer, presuambly because it was set to auto-update and not "use as a hard-drive".
I'm not sure what third party software you are using? Is it Jhymn? The inability to open in Explorer is normal, but there is software out there that will let you use it like another hard drive (for the Apple and Windows).

Again, paid for music should be backed up without any trouble with the built in burn disc function.
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So, the reason i plugged my ipod into my PC was in an attempt to backup it up onto yet another drive, using the third party software.This ,by the way won't let me upload my paid-for music, and i can't open Ipod in Explorer, presuambly because it was set to auto-update and not "use as a hard-drive".

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14420803 Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:24:16 EDT Re: No, you missed nothing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14419345 Pictor Guy :
said by mick mick :

except you can't upload the tracks from you're ipod officially, and yes i know there are a zillion unofficial programs to let you do this, but what do you do when you can't open Itunes, or uninstall it, but it still pops up whenever you plug you're ipod in, and then tries to synchronize.... i.e because itunes thinks it has no music in it, it tries to wipe all your music from your ipod.
Nice.
Oh, and you can't turn autoupdate off because you can't access itunes normally.
Presumably you would fix the iTunes issue before doing some less than intelligent thing like plug in the iPod to sync with a broken application. Or use another computer. iTunes 5.0.1 is out to fix some issues but there are also a lot of people who haven't run into what you describe. Another way to copy the music without a third party application in windows is to simply open up the iPod in explorer and drag out the files from your music folder. You won't get the meta data but you'll have the music. If you move to another PeeCee then all you need to do is register that machine to play the ITMS bought songs. AND... as with any data there is no excuse to a lack of a good backup plan.

If it happened to me I would be upset too but at some point I have to ask what could I do to safeguard my investment. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14419345 Thu, 22 Sep 2005 10:29:23 EDT Re: No, you missed nothing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14419287 cbrigante2 :
said by mick mick :

except you can't upload the tracks from you're ipod officially, and yes i know there are a zillion unofficial programs to let you do this, but what do you do when you can't open Itunes, or uninstall it, but it still pops up whenever you plug you're ipod in, and then tries to synchronize.... i.e because itunes thinks it has no music in it, it tries to wipe all your music from your ipod.
Nice.
Oh, and you can't turn autoupdate off because you can't access itunes normally.
iTunes isn't the only music software that handles it like this. Every DRM enabled player has some restrictions on it, no need to single iTunes out. If your only backup is what is on your iPod then losing all of your purchased music is inevitable. You need to practice what Apple has been preaching with iTunes. Backup, backup, backup. It takes you all of 2 minutes to burn a cd or dvd with all your store bought music on it.
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Nice.
Oh, and you can't turn autoupdate off because you can't access itunes normally.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14418348 Thu, 22 Sep 2005 04:31:49 EDT Re: No, you missed nothing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14412767 Pictor Guy :
said by Pagoda See Profile :

If I had purchased music through iTunes I would REALLY have reason to be pissed off.
You would also have a copy of the music on your iPod or other mp3 player. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14412767 Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:57:49 EDT No, you missed nothing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14411635 Pagoda : Since installing iTunes, my computer has been completely hosed up. The system crashes about one minute after I log into windows and reboots automatically. I can't uninstall iTunes from safe mode because it says the MSIINSTALLER is not working. What the hell am I supposed to do?! Well, I know there are things I can do, yet this is unacceptable. If I had purchased music through iTunes I would REALLY have reason to be pissed off.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14411635 Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:09:02 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14392828 anon : Fantastic. so your Apple Itunes runs fine on your Apple Mac.
I'm happy for u. I run Mac and PC because i'm intelligent enough to see the advantages in both; i can tell you that the problems with Itunes/Windows are horrendous and are totaly down to badle Beta-tested software cauisng huge probelms for hundres of people.
Apple .. no warnings, no apologies, NO HELP]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14392828 Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:30:45 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14392762 Tsume : Don't try to put words in my mouth. I'm just stating what seems to be the norm. There are exceptions.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14392762 Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:21:16 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14392744 anon : Oh how nice to be smug.yes i'm a total f*****g moron who knows nothing about computers and so it's obviously it's all my fault, because your system is fine.
have you looked at the Apple forums? There are hundreds of people out there extremely pissed that Apple realesed this piece of shit , badly Beta-tested version that is un-uninstallable, un-rollbackable (good word) and hijacks music that is paid for and unplayable except on Itunes.Plus totally screws up your PC.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14392744 Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:18:38 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14374875 Greg_Z :
said by Austinite100 :

A couple of stupid users having issues 'cause they can't install something or 'cause they already had a mess on their systems is not Apple's fault. Maybe spyware messes up the installation, you can't blame Apple for that. All because Windows should be called PoS OS instead. I haven't had a single issue with iTunes ever. In fact, because of that and many other things I now use a Mac.
Has nothing to do with Windows being a "PoS OS", or about Spyware. Issues with installing iTunes is being found out on clean systems, and also has nothing to do with 'cause they can't install something' or 'cause they alreayd had a mess on their systems'.

Please move along Anon..
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XP Home / SP2
100% updated system!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14361644 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:53:11 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358887 hdknight : The problem isn't Apple or iTunes. The problem is Windows sucks. In any case iTunes worked fine on 2 Macs and the 7 XP systems I installed it on. again, its a Win XP and user problem. Bunch of whiners....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358887 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:18:16 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358639 dromaine : Using Itunes 5.0 on XP with SP2, Works great.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358639 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:47:50 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14357631 Joe123456789 :
said by Tsume See Profile :

As much as I dislike Apple, this doesn't really seem like a new news item. I post a bit in the WoW tech forums, and every time a new version is out there's a huge influx of "oh my god I started the game and my pc exploded" or "I started WoW and then my computer blue screened me" or "all the lights on my router turn on and I can't access the internet when I start wow". Seems to go for pretty much any software, and 99% of the time it's something on the user's end- bad power supply, old video card drivers, or a really crappily designed router. The possibilities are endless. I doubt many of the problems users are having with iTunes 5 is a problem with Apple's software.
You forgot windows update killed my system
Did windows update now my system only boots in safe mode.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14357631 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:36:34 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14357441 Greg_Z : I had no problem on my Laptop, but the desktop stated that the file was corrupt, until I Removed Quicktime 7.0.xBeta, and was then able to install with no problems.
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No problems downloading tunes, Podcasts or Audible Books.
It's probably Software conflicts with other stuff installed on Users Systems which needs time to fix.
As for accusations of Apple being perfect (other posts), anyone claiming Apple is perfect is exaggerating although I will say, in my limited experience with Apple products, it has been a much better one than with Windows and some PC's.

Looks like someone got at least a temporary fix.
»discussions.info.apple.com/webx?···68b90c60]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14356590 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:17:13 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14356395 ClvrStlAcs : Dude the only problem is your internet connection. Apple and anyone in their right mind for that matter would never have a corrupt file available for download. The file sent to you was fine up until some faulty point in the transfer where it became corrupt. Chances are this faulty point is either somewhere within your house (if you have dial-up) or between your modem and your computer (if you have broadband). Unless iTunes is also your ISP or the name of your modem, you're barking up the wrong tree.

BTW if you've had problems with corrupt files before you might want to check out »/linequality]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14356395 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:50:07 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354889 Necronomikro : Here is a screenshot of the iTunes 5.0 mini player.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354889 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:23:56 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354799 wwdubbia : iTunes no longer recognizes my burners... says registry settings are missing when they're not!

Reinstalled, didn't change a thing.

UGH!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354799 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:11:18 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354757 tapeloop : Absolutely no problems for me.

Oh wait...I uninstalled iTunes 3 months ago! :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354757 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:07:22 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354712 DougInWC : I'm staying with 4.9 until 5.0.1 or later.

I read that the mini player window is improved but I can't find any details. Could a Windows user pease provide details and/or a screen shot of the new mini player window? Here's the old one for reference:
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354712 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:00:53 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354520 gruggni : No issues installing with win xp sp2. The issues are sharing music with itunes 5 didn't pickup any of the itunes 4.9 shares. Uninstalling creates a backup of your library, but inorder to go back and install 4.9 you must rename the backup or move it out of the folder. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354520 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:35:40 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354250 Boricua65 : There is one known problem. I downloaded directly from their website Itunes and got a file corruption error when trying to install.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354250 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:00:46 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354243 Pictor Guy : Ditto. I generally wait for a x.1 release but I bit the bullet on this one and didn't have any problems. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354243 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:59:43 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354239 Nemokrad : I don't see it as a news item either. Problem is Apple's die hard fans portray Apple as perfect, so anytime Apple has any small misstep it gets plastered all over the news so as to rub it in their faces. You should see the OS X security update patch threads, lol.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354239 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:59:33 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354086 cbrigante2 : No problems on 2 pcs and 1 Mac.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354086 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:37:20 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354075 juilinsandar : I'm going to wait and see as 4.9 is working just fine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14354075 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:36:18 EDT Re: Did I miss something? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14353964 Tsume : As much as I dislike Apple, this doesn't really seem like a new news item. I post a bit in the WoW tech forums, and every time a new version is out there's a huge influx of "oh my god I started the game and my pc exploded" or "I started WoW and then my computer blue screened me" or "all the lights on my router turn on and I can't access the internet when I start wow". Seems to go for pretty much any software, and 99% of the time it's something on the user's end- bad power supply, old video card drivers, or a really crappily designed router. The possibilities are endless. I doubt many of the problems users are having with iTunes 5 is a problem with Apple's software.
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