Peer Guardian in Filesharing Software http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r13913836 en Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:16:29 EDT Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:16:29 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14750171 steve19726 : Let me get this right.. if the block list of ips are public ally available, wouldn't the bad guys have them too? plus, as the user said before me, a software firewall can do all the things pg can do and more.. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14750171 Mon, 07 Nov 2005 10:23:08 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14749117 NormanS :
said by tcharp See Profile :

I have a question about this little program. I've seen so many recommendations for it, but from what I can see it only blocks a specific list of addresses AND a simple firewall test shows that my IP is easily accessible when running this thing, so the question really is, "What does it do?" because I don't think it does what it is advertised to do.

Any ideas,
-TC
What it claims to do (protect your privacy) seems to be at odds with its defined intent. I gather that the intent is not to block your IP address from view on the Internet, but to block listed IP addresses from accessing your P2P client. Presumably to foil the dogs of the RIAA/MPAA from finding out that you are trading copyright protected files; which has nothing to do with "protecting your privacy", and everything to do with trying to cloak activity which subject to legal sanctions.

I suspect that trying to identify, and block, all of the IP addresses being used by the dogs of the RIAA/MPAA in their effort to enforce their master's rights is an impossible task. It is probably safer to just stick to sharing files which you have a clear right to share.
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oh yeah, pg is coded in c++ I think, what a bunch of caca to begin with. have fun with that source code.

:o

hmmmm, anyway, I suggest opiation coupled with ATHF episodes, and some food... then, you're good to go! like those j. d byrider commercials.

come on people! our latin friends would not be pleased! you must do that carpe diem thing (the *real* carpe diem thing, the one where you do stuff now and don't care about the future consequences, not that caca doodoo from the dead poet's society, the movie industry just wants to confuse you)

just like the PG heretics!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14746187 Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:24:44 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14737420 anon : The name, it's all in the name.

"Peer" + "guardian"

As in: it helps you protect yourself while connecting to p2p.

All it does it block ip addresses, that is correct. But it is the blocking of these ip addresses that protects your privacy, and, keeps your downloading performance from being hindered, while using a p2p protocol.

But the smart people that developed it, were smart enough not to limit to a p2p ip filtering application, and made it work as a full-fledged ip blocking application.

It's not as good if used on a machine used for general purposes, because the ip blocking lists can never be perfect. But, if you hypothetically have a machine only for p2p downloading, then it's a very good idea.

The program itself is a good idea. The thing that one has to worry about is the fact that it is dangerous in the wrong hands, or even vulnerable to well placed evil intentions.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14737420 Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:01:51 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14661717 Doctor Four : One of the WinMX cache servers used in Vladd44's PIE
Patch is on Bluetack's (and likely PG's blocklists). If
you're using any blocklist and WinMX, the address to
exclude is in Exodus Communications range, and is
209.67.209.50.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14661717 Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:08:14 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14661624 unizoid : I don't have a problem w/ blocklists/host files generalities, if PG hampers a site uness, *allow* *disable* *edit* np
& I've used serveral apps not ness for P2P etc, that have thrown up a problematic hostfile entry now and then.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14661624 Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:53:36 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14629217 anon :
quote:
Let's compare peer guardian to a condom, although it doesn't offer 100% protection, it still does offer some protection. And granted maybe a lot of those IPs are fake or just useless, but then again, some protection is better than none. An antivirus program isn't 100% effective, but it's still useful and most would recommend its use. I would say the same thing is true of peer guardian.


let's take it farther

let's say pg is a condom with a tiny hole in it. even the biggest pg fanboy is willing to admit it isn't 100% perfect. does a condom with only one hole protect you better than a condom with 2 holes in it?

of course not, lousy protection is lousy protection, the matter of degrees is irrelevant]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14629217 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:54:48 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14621934 Coolpplse :
quote:
Now on to proving it sucks. Do me a favor, prove to me it DOESN'T.

Explain to me why for the longest time it's block list contained sites like chicagobears.com, NFL.com, QVC.com...I could go on and on. Explain to me why it blocks what appear to be completely innocuous sets of IP ranges. Explain to me why it blocks alot of .gov ranges when the gov has nothing to do with any of the current piracy crap going on. Explain to me why it blocks NASA

Until you can explain to me where EVERY entry on the ridiculously long blocklist came from then I suggest not defend it since you obviously don't know why those ranges are blocked either.,


This is because ur an utter nonsense n00b that downloaded the Blocklist that blocks "ALL" including government websites!

READ what you DOWNLOAD before questioning why This is doing this and that is doing that!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14621934 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:20:29 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14611595 Qumahlin :
said by Ausds :

A better argument to make is to download the source code and examine it.

If you have enough brain capacity, then you can prove (undisputable) that application is ineffective.

So far, NONE of you doubters have done that. All we've got is your opinions...Which means NOTHING in the real world as they aren't backed with any information.
This is why SafePeer plug-in exists for Azureus.

But of course, NONE of you twits knew that. If you
did, then the thread would shift into a different tone.

My overall point.

If you're going to argue something sucks, back it up with proof.
um...why would any of us need to look at the source code to know it sucks? Obviously you yourself have not looked at it.

All peerguardian is, is a connection monitor/terminator. It sits and watches your network stack for specific IP addresses which it gets from a text file and if one of the listed IP addresses is found the connection is terminated and you get the pretty little message of so and so being blocked which in turns makes a uninformed user (such as yourself) feel safe. There is no need to look at the source code, because the source code contains nothing of value. The whole program is just one big IP blocklist (which if you really want to use their BS blocklist most firewalls support importing)

You can achieve this exact same functionality with ANY firewall on the market you do know that correct?

We aren't arguing that Peerguardian does a bad job of terminating the connections...it does fine.

What we are arguing is the fact that peerguardians blocklist is utter BS. It contains TONS of IP ranges that have NOTHING to do with media companies, etc. In fact for awhile it blocked the Chicago Bears website.

So I suggest before you go blatantly defending a product, you do some of your own research and don't bring up idiotic things like "OMG YOU GUYS DIDN'T LOOK AT THE SOURCE CODE YOUR ALL NOOBS!!!ONE111!!!!!"

Now on to proving it sucks. Do me a favor, prove to me it DOESN'T.

Explain to me why for the longest time it's block list contained sites like chicagobears.com, NFL.com, QVC.com...I could go on and on. Explain to me why it blocks what appear to be completely innocuous sets of IP ranges. Explain to me why it blocks alot of .gov ranges when the gov has nothing to do with any of the current piracy crap going on. Explain to me why it blocks NASA

Until you can explain to me where EVERY entry on the ridiculously long blocklist came from then I suggest not defend it since you obviously don't know why those ranges are blocked either.

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Now im not going to even pretend that it will make you anonymous from "the man" like some people think, but for what I use it for it works quite well and is a whole lot better than using nothing and downloading alot of junk data.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14602616 Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:14:41 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14602290 C_ : this thing is still around?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14602290 Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:35:45 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14596254 anon : Looks folks, if you're unsatisfied with what PeerGuardian 2 brings, then don't install it.

But all these excuses about placebo (and so on), means nothing.

A better argument to make is to download the source code and examine it.

If you have enough brain capacity, then you can prove (undisputable) that application is ineffective.

So far, NONE of you doubters have done that. All we've got is your opinions...Which means NOTHING in the real world as they aren't backed with any information.

This is no different if I said I developed a Playstation 2 emulator on the PC. I got it fully working without any performance hits.

No one would believe me until I released the source code, and see what I've done to resolve the performance issues of current attempts for PS2 emulators on the PC.

For this PeerGuardian case, saying something bad about an application, and not being able to prove or demonstrate it just goes to show their full of it.

ie : Nothing but opinion...

*sarcasm*
That's really gonna move me not to use PeerGuardian, isn't it?
*sarcasm*

Where PG2 doesn't work well, is with BitTorrent. This is because of the way its implemented (and if you numbskulls bothered to read the source code, then you would know)...

But most of you are simply too mentalily incapable of reading C/C++ code, as its easier to bullshit without backing up your opinion, than it is to look and pick at what's wrong. (You folks should seek future employment at CNN or Fox News...Better yet, on one of those lame-ass try-hard computer/tech magazine/site).

This is why SafePeer plug-in exists for Azureus.

But of course, NONE of you twits knew that. If you
did, then the thread would shift into a different tone.

My overall point.

If you're going to argue something sucks, back it up with proof.

If you just gonna blab some BS opinion without any facts to prove your point, then I'm gonna ignore you (And so will many, many others)...Just like I ignore Microsoft's BS when it comes to ANY of their public statements.

I agree with erthwjim on his point.

Everyone pays for Windows (those included with system adds $100 to total system cost), and yet they actually install more crap (more often, pay for it) to protect themselves.

You install Zone Alarm, AVG, Kerio Personal Firewall, Sygate Personal Firewall, etc.

All are closed source products...And yet, PG2 is open-source, allowing you to see the code and everything.

So what you twits are saying is that you would trust a company that could easily screw you all over, than you would with your own "download and C/C++ code reading" skills?

The open-source project has more to lose than a closed-source one...And yet, people trust the closed source one! Even though the open one allows you to see exactly what the app can and cannot do! Bravo. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14596254 Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:09:40 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14594804 erthwjim : Let's compare peer guardian to a condom, although it doesn't offer 100% protection, it still does offer some protection. And granted maybe a lot of those IPs are fake or just useless, but then again, some protection is better than none. An antivirus program isn't 100% effective, but it's still useful and most would recommend its use. I would say the same thing is true of peer guardian.

Of course as stated earlier, usenet is the way to go. Sure it's leaching, but hey you can't get in trouble for uploading, and the speeds are always consistent. But usenet doesn't have everything and neither does P2P. Usenet you have to request, P2P usually has more variety. You want anonymous, use freenet, but it's slow as hell, and hard to find things.

And one more thing, if free is worthless than what does that make linux. People pay for Windows and it has a lot of problems, linux is free and it has less. As far as I knew the open source community (free) is a lot more innovative than the closed source community.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14594804 Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:59:57 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14578301 twizlar : There wouldn't be a need for such crapp programs as PG if people would wake up and stop using lousy programs such as BT and DC++. Usenet > * kkthx
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said by RandomWhim See Profile :

On second thought, don't use it. None of you use it please. Somebody has to get caught for illegal downloads so the **AA's don't come after PeerGuardian for working so well to thwart them.
That's funny right there. Enjoy your false sense of security.

This Simpsons line explains all of it:
Later, a full-force Bear Patrol is on watch. Homer watches proudly.

Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.
-Lisa: That's spacious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
-Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
-Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
-Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
-Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
--------[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
--------[Lisa refuses at first, then takes the exchange]


So.. Wanna buy a tiger protection system? :hmm:
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"I'll save my disk space"?! If your hard drive is so small that 2mb will break ya...the effectiveness of PeerGuardian2 is the least of your worries. :uhh:

It has a very, very small system footprint, and it blocks a ton of nasty IP's.

On second thought, don't use it. None of you use it please. Somebody has to get caught for illegal downloads so the **AA's don't come after PeerGuardian for working so well to thwart them.
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Once I took a look at what was in PG, and didn't take long to realize what a big piece BS it was. For instance, do I need to worry about the Tasmanian Police department?! :)

What many of you don't realize that they'll often use a regular Comcast/Verizon/etc., account, and and list from there what you share. When mediasentry was using their rngers bot on opennap servers, they had about 2 dozen or so distinct IPs with about half of them coming from home IPs. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14084086 Mon, 08 Aug 2005 05:04:22 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14071631 Qumahlin :
said by HarryPearTesticles:

Bah,saying peer guardian is non-sense is a load of crap.Like a few others that have posted here,i was running servers full of stuff before napster ever existed,and have experienced all the crap that is out there to experience.

If your using the right blockllist in peer guardian it will help a ton.I just switched pc's and havent installed pg yet on this new one,or i would show a log of the bad guys who i would bet none of you would like to see checking in on you,places like n.a.s.a.,six or seven different millitary facilities,mgm,disney,italian and uk goverment p2p agencies,a numerous amount of software and game companies a few thousand,sometimes more a day.I'm an avid user always have been,keep everything running 24/7/365,Have a run a dozen p2p/torrent sites,even have a new dc one coming up by sunday evening.

Personally i would rather have nasa,and the multi billion dollar companies,and the military basaes blocked,rather then having them tracking my every move and me not even knowing it."It is better to be safe then sorry folks" I say your a fool to not protect yourself the best you can,it wouldnt have been made for you to use if it was worthless,and surely it wouldnt be given away for free if they stood to gain something from thier supposed "worthless" product.So make your own choice's(obviously)and be safe,or go and take an even bigger chance of getting sued for more money then you can probly afford.

PearTesticle's.........Out.
LOL, this is such utter BS it's hysterical. You really think NASA was investigating your computer..LOL This is exactly why PeerGuardian is BS, because it tells you such things that are blatantly wrong

Try investing in a packet sniffer and find out what traffic is really coming to you etc if you really think NASA and "military bases" are scanning your comp

LOL is all I can say
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quote:
or i would show a log of the bad guys who i would bet none of you would like to see checking in on you,places like n.a.s.a.,six or seven different millitary facilities,mgm,disney,italian and uk goverment p2p agencies,a numerous amount of software and game companies a few thousand,sometimes more a day.


and who supplies the names? oh yeah, the guys who made the bullshit blocklist

who are you blocking? nasa? they sure are suing for a lot of movie and music infringement. the millitary[sic]? are they carpetbombing p2p servers now?

it's all paranoid nonsense purveyed by paranoid uninformed bozos like this pear guy]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14068760 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 20:32:18 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14067607 ctrip :
said by HarryPearTesticles:

I say your a fool to not protect yourself the best you can,it wouldnt have been made for you to use if it was worthless,and surely it wouldnt be given away for free if they stood to gain something from thier supposed "worthless" product.
Huh? You sort of lost me there.

I suspect they give it away for free precisely because it is worthless. I mean, who in their right mind would pay for such a worthless piece of useless crap?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14067607 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 17:34:29 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14067076 anon : Bah,saying peer guardian is non-sense is a load of crap.Like a few others that have posted here,i was running servers full of stuff before napster ever existed,and have experienced all the crap that is out there to experience.

If your using the right blockllist in peer guardian it will help a ton.I just switched pc's and havent installed pg yet on this new one,or i would show a log of the bad guys who i would bet none of you would like to see checking in on you,places like n.a.s.a.,six or seven different millitary facilities,mgm,disney,italian and uk goverment p2p agencies,a numerous amount of software and game companies a few thousand,sometimes more a day.I'm an avid user always have been,keep everything running 24/7/365,Have a run a dozen p2p/torrent sites,even have a new dc one coming up by sunday evening.

Personally i would rather have nasa,and the multi billion dollar companies,and the military basaes blocked,rather then having them tracking my every move and me not even knowing it."It is better to be safe then sorry folks" I say your a fool to not protect yourself the best you can,it wouldnt have been made for you to use if it was worthless,and surely it wouldnt be given away for free if they stood to gain something from thier supposed "worthless" product.So make your own choice's(obviously)and be safe,or go and take an even bigger chance of getting sued for more money then you can probly afford.

PearTesticle's.........Out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14067076 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 16:22:32 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14041415 Sven77 : emule has a IP filter that can use a list generated by Peer Guardian, thats what I use. It only affects connections with emule p2p. spybot also has an immunize feature, but that is for adware and other attacks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14041415 Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:23:40 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14040652 jsouth : No, because a firewall and antivirus programs are actually worthwhile. Yes. I have tried both. No I don't use either. I've been doing P2P since napster and have not had one letter. Of course I'm smart enough not to run it 24/7 among other things. When I ran Peerguardian, it reported the same people were trying to connect with me over and over. The thing was none were even remotely connected to the RIAA or MPAA. Wake up. It's a placebo. I know people who have had their service shut off and they WERE running Peerguardian V2 with full updates.
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Donkey on Chicken bondage porn shouldn't be adware supported :D
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quote:
Since we are discussing Peerguardian, I'd have to respectfully disagree.


Care to explain? You are saying its ALL bad? PG can do nothing worthwhile?
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said by kywirelessgu See Profile:

Can't be all bad, right?
Since we are discussing Peerguardian, I'd have to respectfully disagree.
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quote:
I've taped a banana to the side of my computer and haven't gotten a letter since then. Some say that I am foolish for doing so, but I have not gotten 1 fake file nor a letter since then. Too much of a coincidence not to be true.


way to turn a perfectly legitimate thread into a circus freak show.

I think this is the downward spiral that Jarmann was referring to.

If you feel more secure using PeerGuardian, then you don't need anyones permission. Just install it and see how many IP's it actually blocks (alot in my personal experience).

Can't be all bad, right?
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I also switched to Usenet at the same time, but I don't think that factors into this.
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From the Peer Guardian FAQ:

Q. How safe is PeerGuardian, really?

A. Well, it is accurate in the sense that it blocks everything on your blocklist. It is impossible to know _all_ the addresses to block, so while it will increase your safety to a good extent, it can never be perfect.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13947658 Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:44:09 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13938747 kw : Usually they target legit songs, then when you attempt to download the song, it'll contact one of the "bad" files and download garbage. I think they spoof the hashes on the songs. So they have a bunch of machines sharing "static" of popular songs. Speed of Sound by Coldplay is a good example of a song that'd be difficult to find if you tried to download it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13938747 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:33:28 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13937888 Qumahlin :
said by kw See Profile:

I noticed that it is useful for a few things. It can block ads if you choose it to do so. It also can give you a heads up if you're downloading a fake song or not...it goes balistic if you try and download a fake song off of P2P...but yeah...for the most part its useless.
Only if that fake song is coming from one of the listed sources. It really doesn't prevent fakes since the biggest problem is people do not delete the fake songs they download from their share directory so then you have joe schmoe sharing the fake song as well.
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Forum Posts:6500]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13937888 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:16:39 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13923616 kw : I noticed that it is useful for a few things. It can block ads if you choose it to do so. It also can give you a heads up if you're downloading a fake song or not...it goes balistic if you try and download a fake song off of P2P...but yeah...for the most part its useless. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13923616 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:21:05 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13923334 kywirelessgu : I don't use PG, but my feeling is, if it blocks one IP of some baddy then its worth it, right? Sure its not fool proof, but I'd rather be standing in the middle of the interstate with socks than with nothing at all.

You'll always be connecting to other people without PG, who have your IP in their logs who the baddies can track, so it'll never be foolproof as long as not everyone uses it.

I also think if the RIAA busted me from one of their home computers I'd have a pretty big loophole in court.

That being said, its pretty much worthless software, though the newest version allows you to pretty easilly turn off blocking http so it won't shut down your websites, though one of the great side affects of the software is it blocks IP's of known adware sites so it could potentially block a trojan.

I'm a llama
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the answers to all lifes questions... »www.google.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13923334 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:45:11 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13919895 Qumahlin :
said by tcharp See Profile:

What y'all have said is pretty much what I'm finding as well. It's hard for me to understand why it is so highly touted on a couple of torrent sites I've visited.

Also, the only address that I have seen it block is the Unix-girl address that DSLR is using for a substitute monitor site. I'm thinkin' she is not a bad guy.

I'll save my disk space.

Thanks,
-TC

It's touted on sites because the people that run them are idiots. These are the same people that still reference the "internet privacy act" and believe it actually exists and that they can just say "No police allowed!" and the police aren't allowed in...heh

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Forum Posts:6500]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13919895 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:03:29 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13919677 THE MANN : pg is one of the biggest bs it does nothing for you but block good sites.

the idea of being safe by blocking IPs is just ridiculous
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KLT K++ 2.7.0 - EDONKEYLITE1.1]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13919677 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:50:20 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13915398 tcharp : What y'all have said is pretty much what I'm finding as well. It's hard for me to understand why it is so highly touted on a couple of torrent sites I've visited.

Also, the only address that I have seen it block is the Unix-girl address that DSLR is using for a substitute monitor site. I'm thinkin' she is not a bad guy.

I'll save my disk space.

Thanks,
-TC
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"It's hard to leave when you can't find the door." - Joe Walsh]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13915398 Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:00:30 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13914950 hitachi369 : Ie pulling IP out of there asses. They recently blocked news-hosting, hardly an **AA bady.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13914950 Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:52:19 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13914941 ctrip : Pretty much useless IMHO. It's supposed to block IP addresses from the RIAA, MPAA, and others like that.

But just think about it for a second. Even if it managed to block all IP addresses from every RIAA building and facility in the world (which seems rather far fetched), what prevents the RIAA investigator from going home and getting on his residential high speed internet account and monitoring IP's sharing copyrighted material? That's right, absolutely nothing.

Then you must consider the unintended opposite effect. While trying to block these large blocks of "bad" IP addresses, how many good or benign IP addresses are getting blocked by mistake?

It's sort of like snake oil. It might make you feel better, but it really doesn't do much good.
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the lists are updated regularly by people who spend thier time cross referencing ip's from logs...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13914745 Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:21:22 EDT Re: Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13914408 MattUK : Does near to nothing. Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. Waste of bandwidth, HD space and RAM, IMO.

Edit - it's meant to block corporations from seeing you. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13914408 Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:29:27 EDT Peer Guardian http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13913836 tcharp : I have a question about this little program. I've seen so many recommendations for it, but from what I can see it only blocks a specific list of addresses AND a simple firewall test shows that my IP is easily accessible when running this thing, so the question really is, "What does it do?" because I don't think it does what it is advertised to do.

Any ideas,
-TC
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"It's hard to leave when you can't find the door." - Joe Walsh]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13913836 Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:57:51 EDT