Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r13501509 en Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:39:16 EDT Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:39:16 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13520336 anon :
said by "dibbkd":
They paid for it way back when.
If they want to sell some subnets they will, if not, they won't. I'm not saying it's right, I think it would be better to let ISP's use them, but hey, that's how it is now.

Actually, back then, they didn't pay for them, they simply got an allocation/assignment of those IPs from ARIN. (Or was that before ARIN, I don't remember.) They likewise can't "sell" them, they would instead simply return the IP allocations back to ARIN, and then they would redistribute them.

Back then, no-one really realized how big or popular the internet would get, or how the IPv4 addresses would eventually reach a point of there being shortages, so they handed out /8 blocks left and right to the "bigger" companies that asked for them. I'm sure that DEC (now part of HP/Compaq), and Sun Microsystems both have huge IP blocks allocated to them too. (As well as MS.)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13520336 Sat, 28 May 2005 18:14:11 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13520311 anon : Al Gore promotes the creation of technology at every turn - because technology created Al Gore! He's an android, people, can't you see that??! He wants to create more like him.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13520311 Sat, 28 May 2005 18:09:33 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13520291 anon :
said by "fiberguy":
And yea... while other countries have it all, why not move there? How about Canada and their lovely health care? You know the one where you could probably die from your illness before your appointment date? But they sure do have great cable tv and internet eh? You betchya!

As compared to the number of people that have died or are in the process of dying (or living with a greatly-reduced quality-of-life, which also reduces their individual capacity for contribution to the GNP), due to them not having health insurance at all, because they cannot afford it!

This is caused primarily because the private insurers offering it charge too much, and the private employers paying these people, don't provide it, nor pay their workers enough to afford to pay for it directly. (Such as Wal-Mart, that intentionally doesn't allow a large portion of their workers to work enough hours to qualify for health insurance, and instead tells them to sign up for their state's welfare-funded health-insurance programs instead - just so they can post higher profits.)

I haven't had health insurance for years, here, and am (unfortunately) suffering because of that fact. Perhaps I really should move to Canada.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13520291 Sat, 28 May 2005 18:05:41 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13510621 fiberguy : Forgive me, I didn't realize that this website ahd a political taking. I didn't know this was a left only board. Maybe this explains the entitlement attitude here.

The U.S. - when was the government implicated in this? I think it speaks of the U.S. in whole.

And yea... while other countries have it all, why not move there? How about Canada and their lovely health care? You know the one where you could probably die from your illness before your appointment date? But they sure do have great cable tv and internet eh? You betchya!

How about China, better speeds, but where, oh where do you find room in your 4' x 4' apartment, er, I mean, POD to put that computer, monitor and keyboard? Ask their corrupt government for more room.

I didn't know it was all about the internet here. The U.S. has alot to offer. Even if you dont' like the right wing of this country, which I am not a big fan of either, you are still free to come to a baord like this and blast your own government.. not many other countries allow it.

Really, why don't you take a good look at what you have and stop your whining once and for all! We are the U.S. and I would never want to call any other country home. The U.S. may have faults, but I will take ours anyday over what other countries have to deal with!

If you don't liek the U.S., leave!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13510621 Fri, 27 May 2005 13:37:28 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13507888 dibbb : It's the same reason a lot of other Fortune 100 companies have their own Class A block of IP's.

The chemical company I work for owns their own whole Class A or "/8" subnet too. On my company PC, and every person's PC in the company we have a "real" IP address, nobody uses a 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x or whatever.

They paid for it way back when.

If they want to sell some subnets they will, if not, they won't. I'm not saying it's right, I think it would be better to let ISP's use them, but hey, that's how it is now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13507888 Fri, 27 May 2005 07:10:39 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13505205 Freezone : What Al Gore did say was pretty stupid though. What he wanted to say was that he helped introduce policy that helped to create the internet that we have today. He does deserve some credit in that regard, after all I doubt that on his watch we would have fallen so far behind broadband. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13505205 Thu, 26 May 2005 21:52:54 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13503038 Asmodeus :
said by NothingBetter:

Is that true with those televangelists too? Their on the right...and who was that one that was banging Jessica Hahn?
What a bunch of hypocrites.

Oh...and I hope that fathead Rush has to. According to his own thoughts, he should be locked up for life for being a drug addict.

I don't get the whole divided issue..left or right,Republican or Democrat...they are all out for themselves and you can't believe a word they say. It's more like rich vs not-so rich vs. not-so poor vs. poor.
who was on the right bangin' jessica hahn, well, a man, a televangelist that fell from the ideal he chose to live up to and ask people to live up to as well... does that negate the message by having a faulty man delivering the message...? people make mistakes every day, you, me, everyone... hypocrisy isn't a crime, but people who see it and excise it from within their ranks are doing the world a favor...

sure, jim baker commited adultry and as a minister lied to his flock and brought shame upon himself and that's too bad, but his actions do not make the message hypocritical... and as for your comment about rush limbaugh, the same applies to him too... and i find that your uncompassionate attitude towards those have problems regardless of their status to be distasteful and indicative of your total lack of understand about these issues... have some compassion, man... throw a helping hand out to someone how trips and falls...

i'm not talking about being sympathetic to rapists and murderers, but to those that allow vice and bad decision making to delude their perceptions and thusly leads to making wrong choices...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13503038 Thu, 26 May 2005 17:30:20 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13502637 bmn :
said by pnh102 See Profile:

Of course we own the Internet.
Actually, that doesn't apply any more... DARPA is dead. The Internet as it existed is gone.

We invented it after all.
So? A Lot of things that we enjoy in this country were invented in other nations and you don't have the same arrogant, eight year old attitude from them about it.

It doesn't matter who invented it any more because no one nation or company "owns" the Internet.

Oh, and God Bless America!
If there is a God, he/she/it probably could care less about the B.S. politics and nations of the world... God is not an America or a capitalist...
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What a bunch of hypocrites.

Oh...and I hope that fathead Rush has to. According to his own thoughts, he should be locked up for life for being a drug addict.

I don't get the whole divided issue..left or right,Republican or Democrat...they are all out for themselves and you can't believe a word they say. It's more like rich vs not-so rich vs. not-so poor vs. poor.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13502391 Thu, 26 May 2005 16:06:23 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13502101 sporkme :
said by jwersan See Profile:

said by kapil See Profile:

...we "own" the Internet..
No we don't, Al Gore does!! :D

Well he does, he invented it! :o

Didn't he??? :huh:

Well that's what he says... :uhh:
Some rumors just won't die. Please, don't let that stop you from repeating them.

»www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13502101 Thu, 26 May 2005 15:30:19 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13502096 jwersan :
said by MightyPez See Profile:

said by jwersan See Profile:

No we don't, Al Gore does!! :D

Well he does, he invented it! :o

Didn't he??? :huh:

Well that's what he says... :uhh:
No he didn't! But don't let the facts get in the way.
I know that!! :uhh:

Hence the line "Well that's what he says...

Have a nice day! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13502096 Thu, 26 May 2005 15:30:02 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13501959 MightyPez :
said by jwersan See Profile:

No we don't, Al Gore does!! :D

Well he does, he invented it! :o

Didn't he??? :huh:

Well that's what he says... :uhh:
No he didn't! But don't let the facts get in the way. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13501959 Thu, 26 May 2005 15:11:23 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13501884 pnh102 :
said by raye See Profile:

This is not a rant against Haliburton specifically, but why do they still have a 34.0.0.0/8 block. Or the other corps for that matter?
Because Halliburton is the cause of all evil all over the world, since the time of Adam and Eve.
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I understand ISPs, but is Haliburton or GE going to have 16M computers that need static IP addresses.

Somebody ought to require them to give them up, IMHO]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13501830 Thu, 26 May 2005 14:51:56 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13501743 pcscdma : The band or the girls?
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said by jwersan See Profile:

said by kapil See Profile:

...we "own" the Internet..
No we don't, Al Gore does!! :D

Well he does, he invented it! :o

Didn't he??? :huh:

Well that's what he says... :uhh:
No, the media. :P
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said by kapil See Profile:

...we "own" the Internet..
No we don't, Al Gore does!! :D

Well he does, he invented it! :o

Didn't he??? :huh:

Well that's what he says... :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13501525 Thu, 26 May 2005 14:08:53 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13501509 pnh102 :
said by kapil See Profile:

Are you talking about the kinda' blessings that can be charged to a credit card after watching the endless infomercials on channels 32, 38, 43, 56, 84, 77....? $29.99 for a blessing from God and a Jesus Blanket. And if you call right now, we'll throw in a free molesting session with the priest of your choice! Call Now 800-Holy-Crap!
Actually, those on the right don't need to pay for blessings from God, that would be like a metal band paying for sex.
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said by pnh102 See Profile:

Oh, and God Bless America!
Are you talking about the kinda' blessings that can be charged to a credit card after watching the endless infomercials on channels 32, 38, 43, 56, 84, 77....? $29.99 for a blessing from God and a Jesus Blanket. And if you call right now, we'll throw in a free molesting session with the priest of your choice! Call Now 800-Holy-Crap!
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said by pnh102 See Profile:

said by kapil See Profile:
Oh, and God Bless America!
...and no place else ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13501330 Thu, 26 May 2005 13:44:39 EDT Re: Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13501314 pnh102 :
said by kapil See Profile:

We're arrogant, we "own" the Internet and since we own all of the original Class A networks, the rest of the world can go to hell. We're fine with IPv4, Copper instead of fiber and Betamax.
Of course we own the Internet. We invented it after all. We don't tell France how to operate their MiniTel service after all do we?

Oh, and God Bless America!
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yea it kills me how places like Korea and Hong Kong have ISP service that is like 10 times faster than ours.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13501237 Thu, 26 May 2005 13:30:43 EDT Because We're The United State, DAMMIT! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13501202 kapil : We're arrogant, we "own" the Internet and since we own all of the original Class A networks, the rest of the world can go to hell. We're fine with IPv4, Copper instead of fiber and Betamax.
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