said by hpnotiq :

- On another note, IMO one of the safest substances around is codeine if used responsibly for pain. I think it should be OTC.

said by Sean :

Do you still get high?

said by tyler00 :

On a positive more on topic note, the march went very well. Tons of people attended, it was very laid back, no arrests, good times all around :) Well, except for the death metal band they picked to play all afternoon. Not sure who thought that was good music for the festivities.

And hey, I'm down with a good debate like everyone. But there is no need to get defensive and start calling people names like nieve, ignorant, drug addict, etc. I know sometimes people believe very strongly about a subject, but the whole point of discussion is learning right? Because we all don't know everything, we only wish we did :)

To throw in a little bit to the debate, anyone heard of naturopathic (sp?) stuff? I really don't know much about it, but know a few friends who went to those kind of doctors and found it really interesting.

said by Kardinal :

Could you please explain how a vaporizer works? Is it a steamer or ionizer, like a room humidifier, or does it burn it like incense?

said by jojadi76 :

Do you inhale it? I don't I VAPORIZE IT OR EAT IT PERIOD.

said by tyler00 :

On a positive more on topic note, the march went very well. Tons of people attended, it was very laid back, no arrests, good times all around :) Well, except for the death metal band they picked to play all afternoon. Not sure who thought that was good music for the festivities.

And hey, I'm down with a good debate like everyone. But there is no need to get defensive and start calling people names like nieve, ignorant, drug addict, etc. I know sometimes people believe very strongly about a subject, but the whole point of discussion is learning right? Because we all don't know everything, we only wish we did :)

To throw in a little bit to the debate, anyone heard of naturopathic (sp?) stuff? I really don't know much about it, but know a few friends who went to those kind of doctors and found it really interesting.

said by laserjobs :

Can't we just 'Pack a Bowl' and be friends. :D

said by Snickerdo :

Been there, done that, got the T-Shirt. Those of us who are actually ill and need the medication are actually quite offended by the likes of you.

said by laserjobs :

If you find a good life coach, I bet you that they can get you off the anti-depressants for life.

said by Snickerdo :

For a normal person, maybe. Did you ever consider that maybe those of us on anti-depressants don't have normal hormone levels to begin with? Like noelstrom said, you are extremely naive, and probably should shut up now while you're ahead.

said by laserjobs :

I agree it is a chemical imbalance. Do you realize the body changes it's hormone levels based upon the stresses it is under? The chemical imbalances are in most people for a reason, to make them feel uncomfortable to spur change in their life. Depression leads to anger which leads to life change, if we take away the threshold towards anger we remove change.

said by hpnotiq :

noelstrom, excellent post.

Jojaddi and laserjobs: You two have a lot to learn. Antidepressants aren't just there for the pharmaceutical companies to make money. They help people with chemical imbalances in the brain and to balance out the neurotransmitters to where they should be. People with chronic depression or chronic anxiety often have low serotonin levels, low dopamine levels or low norephinedrine levels in the brain. There are different antidepressants for each certain neurotransmitters. Anyway to my point. By doing illegal drugs like marijuana, cocaine, amphetamines, alcohol, etc - using these daily you are risking the unbalancement of certain neurotransmitters therefore putting you into a depression phase or anxiety cloud until you get that drug again. Antidepressants work by rebalancing the neurotransmitters to their normal levels and can be addicting as well, but if you follow directions you taper off them eventually and don't have withdrawal symptoms.

Anyway, enough of my rant. Just research a bit before you post nonsense please.

Thanks

said by jojadi76 :

Go ahead and watch this show featuring Montel Williams.

»pot.tv/archive/shows/pottvshowse-3027.html

Maybe those patients and that little kid was lying??

said by laserjobs :

Prozac type drugs are terrible because they do not allow someone with depression get out of it. Most people have to reach rock bottom before they change their life around. It is a threshold point where depression turns into anger and then to action. Prozac and other similar drug prevent the threshold point form being reached so no change is ever made.

Patient on Prozac: " I feel great even though my life sucks"

Prozac + Pot = Manic depressive

said by Sean :

I refuse to talk to someone who thinks:

- the government raids private cancer research ops
- there is a world wide conspiracy covering up the fact that marijuana cures cancer
- the governmene treats cancer research as an INDUSTRY

Doctors make in excess of $250,000 a year, and doctors in the research field make over $400,000 a year. Doctors will be needed in society FOREVER. There are ALWAYS sicknesses. Once cance gets treated, theres something else to be treated.

Doctors LOVE their jobs. They SAVE lives. They spend $80,000 over the course of four years because they have a PASSION for what they do. I myself plan on going into medicine. I'm going to be a certified lifeguard soon. I'll get paid $10.50/hr after I spent hundreds of dollars and hundreds of hours on training and certification. I LOVE what I do. I love saving lives. It's incomprehensibly ignorant on your part to say otherwise.

You pretend as if cancer is the only known terminal illness and that the government doens't want to cure it because they make a buck out of people DYING every god damn DAY.

You sir, need to think about what you're saying before you offend someone. You sir, are in DENIAL. You sir, get HIGH off cannabis, and LOVE it. DON'T deny it.

said by laserjobs :

Prozac type drugs are terrible because they do not allow someone with depression get out of it. Most people have to reach rock bottom before they change their life around. It is a threshold point where depression turns into anger and then to action. Prozac and other similar drug prevent the threshold point form being reached so no change is ever made.

Patient on Prozac: " I feel great even though my life sucks"

Prozac + Pot = Manic depressive

said by jojadi76 :

Keep using your "good" drugs like prozac and stuff, keep making those pharmaceutical companies richer.

said by laserjobs :

Consistent usage of illegal drugs are a substitution for deeper problem. Rather than wasting your time trying to legalize pot why not try discover yourself and the where the dependency originates?

said by jojadi76 :

Mr fishpants, I think you are a little smart to be asking such questions.

First of all Cannabis does NOT cure Cancer,I never said it did, Cancer shrinks and prevents tumors( I already posted a link)

said by jojadi76 :

Why patients with cancer die??? Good question!! cancer patients use cannabis ONLY to control Pain and nausea related to chemotherapy, what really kills the cancer patient? The cancer treatment ITSELF! chemotherapy is POISON!!

said by jojadi76 :

DECADES OF SEARCH??? do you really think the CANCER INDUSTRY wants a cure??? why the government raids any investigation made by any independent scientific??

said by jojadi76 :

Answer me honestly... what would happen with all the "research centers" for Cancer? Oncologists, Cancer equipment all this INDUSTRY that profits with this illness if a CURE was found?? what about the BILLIONS and BILLIONS lost???

said by jojadi76 :

I don't sit at home and smoke all day like you want to believe, I don't smoke, I VAPORIZE IT OR EAT IT!! how many times do you want me to say it??? I use it for my migraines and to sleep good.

said by jojadi76 :

I don't fabricate any stories, I use common sense and my brain, good luck, I hope one day you discover the truth, after all is your body and you can poison yourself with regular pharmaceuticals, keep believing in regular medicine, they cure all kinds of illnesses!;):D

said by Snickerdo :

The medical community generally believes that marijuana may trigger an already-existing panic disorder, but marijuana in itself is not a direct cause of said disorder. Basically, if marijuana made you have a panic attack, you were already prone to them. Here's an idea - smoke less, and smoke somewhere you're comfortable. God knows I've had a panic attack or two while blazing, but it only ever happened when I was out of town around people I didn't know all too well.

said by Sean :

Instead of retyping what Fish said, I'll just give him a thumbs up.

Inhaling anything thats being burnt WILL damage your lungs. Cannabis DOES not cure cancer. I'm sure that if it did, there'd be a huge celebration.

said by FishPants :

Explain to me how THC interacts with things such as Cancer, or any other disease you constantly spout off about. I am not talking about any fanatical website, I want a true scientific explanation of the following:

1. Once THC enters the blood stream, how does it seek out the cancerous cells. Again just saying "it does" doesn't make it so.

2. Assuming you can answer #1, how does it hook onto those cells, destroying only those cells, and not harm other cells in the process.

3. Assuming you actually can explain up to #2, explain why so many people use marijuana for pain while dealing with Cancer AND THEN THEY DIE . It's used as a way to control pain (not going to argue that, it works), but why didn't it cure them Jojadi? Sure your amway like sites claim it's so, but honestly, why isn't it working for them? They have cancer, and they died.

What I am driving at: it's sick that you claim it cures these things. Giving people false hope in the face of decades of research, over some lame ass website is sick, and you should be slapped in the mouth by a monkey for doing it.

If you want to bang your pot drum saying it helps control pain, I 100% agree. I feel there are better ways to handle pain, but I also recognize everyone is different on how their bodies process pain, pain tolerances etc. However, it certainly does NOT cure cancer, and if you do smoke it, it certainly DOES harm your lungs. Same as if you hang out and breath campfire smoke a lot, it damages your lungs over time.

Just because you sit at home all day and smoke pot doesn't make it medicinal, nor does it excuse the fact that you can't "man up" and just admit you smoke it to get high, period. Instead you fabricate these stories to try and justify your regular use of a drug, just like an alcoholic does -- It's called denial. Your family must be very proud.

Some day I hope when you slam into rock bottom there is someone there to help you out.

said by jojadi76 :

I forgot to add, there is NO one single case of Lung or mouth cancer ever diagnosed connected to Cannabis smoking.

The only cancer you get due to "smoking" is cigarette smoking and cigarretes are completely LEGAL and have no medicinal value whatsoever.

said by Sean :

Before I read the posted links, I want you to tell me: Do you actually think that burning brown paper and the contents within, then inhaling the smoke into your lungs, is good for you?

Once the question is answered in full honesty, I'll read the links.

said by Sean :

Before I read the posted links, I want you to tell me: Do you actually think that burning brown paper and the contents within, then inhaling the smoke into your lungs, is good for you?

Once the question is answered in full honesty, I'll read the links.

said by stillrunnin :

I bet there is some good food there. :D

said by JayMan :

Anyone who says pot cures anything needs to have the few brain cells they have left checked for mold.

said by JayMan :

Pot doesn't cure anything it just masks it. And sucking smoke into the body just damages it more.

Anyone who says pot cures anything needs to have the few brain cells they have left checked for mold.

said by jojadi76 :

Alcohol and Tobacco HARM the body while Cannabis cures illnesses and prevents tumors, of course the government and pharmaceutical companies don't want the regular consumer to know that.

»www.medicalmarihuana.ca/payola.html

»www.alternet.org/story/9257

said by blackeyes :

Just make the damn stuff legal to use under government control just like alcohol. They both do just as much damage to the body.

said by Thumby55 :

I don't mind it being illegal. If it becomes legal the government will tax the crap out of it.

said by angelalways :

Magic Eye Pot Pic....Have fun!

said by JayMan :

drugs are not good for you thats why it is illegal.

said by JayMan :

drugs are not good for you thats why it is illegal.

said by tyler00 :

And if you think drugs are bad because they are illegal, try thinking for yourself! All drugs have a purpose (except crack), abuse is the problem.

said by JayMan :

drugs are not good for you thats why it is illegal.

said by osme :

The cops are there and see the pot, but do nothing?