Re: CNET: Spybot The Best 'Cause It Has Skins! in Security http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r13327843 en Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:34:24 EDT Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:34:24 EDT Re: CNET: Spybot The Best 'Cause It Has Skins! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13339697 Mele20 :
said by keith2468 See Profile:

I have suggested to Kaspersky Labs that KAV 6 have "audio skins".

The skins give users their choice of squeals from 5 different species of wild boar (Russian, North American, South American, European, and Indonesian).

;)
You left out the Hawaiian wild boar! :D I can get a recording for you when I go running next time. I have to frequently contend with wild boars running across the street right in front of me. Very impressive when nine of them cross your path, when an angry mother thinks you are a threat to her baby, or when I look out my window and see one in the condo's back yard (although that is much less scary). ;) An orphan baby wild boar is sure cute though. It wanted to be petted but its snout was sure ugly! (It got adopted by the neighbors).
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said by bcool See Profile:

Do you think that this silly left-handed compliment from CNET would in any wise persuade hoards of the uninitiated to actually download and use Spybot? Wouldn't this be a good thing?
This is along the same lines I was thinking about.
If putting "cool" skins on a anti-malware product gets a bunch of people to download and use the product, so much the better. As long as I can disable the "cool" effects, I would be for the anti-malware product playing a video of 'Dirty Harry' saying: "Go ahead make my day" when it found malware. Anything that gets people to protect & cleanup there systems!

Of course I would like to see a product that gives users a 25KV/0.02Amp shock when they click on something like: Accept Download of Virus.exe.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13335128 Thu, 05 May 2005 09:16:37 EDT Re: CNET: Spybot The Best 'Cause It Has Skins! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13335058 IGGY : "Skins ..Don't give service, why are folks so caught up in plugin skins? I mean the whole point of any progo is function"

If a product isn't easy to use or visually appealling. In many cases the product won't get used. You can have the best software in the world. That will give you broadband from a dial up connection. Tell everyone about it etc. But if the software has a crappy interface that isn't user friendly. Then your going to have problems. Kaspersky is a prime example. For years it was mostly used by geeks. The interface was easy to figure out for most of them. But your average consumer found it hard to deal with. This is part of the reason it has taken Kaspersky so long to now become somewhat popular. Not the only reason but a key element in the equation.

I'm really surprised no one here has picked up on my is Spybot malware article. Because according to CPU magazine author Alex St. John it is. Of course he didn't come right out and say things that way. But if you read his recent CPU magazine article. That is definitely the slant he seems to be leaning towards. This author is also the President and CEO of WildTangent.

Either way functionality is a key part of software usability. Eye candy isn't always smoke and mirrors. In many cases it is there to make the software more appealing to the average consumer. And to improve the ease of use of the software.
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(Pay no attention to the fact that I have the latest Definitions File loaded...I was trying to load a new Skin and accidentally hit the wrong button). :(
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Ad Sabui-Silver is way cool too! I never bother running a Scan or keeping up with the latest definitions, but have become a master at unzipping and adding new Skins!
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13335047 Thu, 05 May 2005 09:00:07 EDT Re: CNET: Spybot The Best 'Cause It Has Skins! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13334838 Mele20 : I haven't read the article. I knew that Spybot had skins but I have not been interested and have none. But that is only because Spybot looks good and doesn't need a skin IMO. However, music players are a different story. WMP is the ugliest thing...looks like a lumbering hippopatomus. Winamp has FANTASTIC skins and tons and tons of them. One reason I love Winamp. Of course, skins are FAR more important on something like a music player that you look at all the time than on Spybot which I run maybe once or twice a month.

As for Norton, it has the BEST interface of all AV and always has had. What's wrong with looking good? NOD32 used to be so hideously ugly with that alien blob that I tried three times before I decided that I could stand to use it. It desperately needed some skins! And even if it was rated no. 1 AV by VB, if it was hideous looking, I didn't want it. WMP is so ugly I won't go near it. 6.4 is good looking though and that is what I use. So, yeah, I certainly think how something looks is part of one's decision as to whether or not to use it. MSAS is also extremely ugly and confusing as heck. Bad interface.
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Give me some pretty Skins any day.

If it weren't for the Skins, I wouldn't even bother using these apps.

And lets not go picking on the Adaware Skins....they're not to shabby either!
»www.adawareskins.com/

And definitely go for the "all in one download" on this one.(Bottom right of page).
»www.allsecpros.com/sbsd.html

Man! Life is great! :D
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where do i buy it ;)

but seriously how is it shaping up, is most of the bugs gone for us simple home users to play with it or they still sorting a couple out

or can i get a free trial ;) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13333481 Thu, 05 May 2005 00:06:12 EDT Re: CNET: Spybot The Best 'Cause It Has Skins! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13333473 ghost16825 :
said by dave See Profile:

Are the skins realised by plug-in modules?

If so... anyone want to guess when the first vulnerability will be found?
On a unrelated note, the original 'skins file' in Ad-aware is a password protected zip with a different file extension. Who knows why they did this...
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13333473 Thu, 05 May 2005 00:04:54 EDT Re: CNET: Spybot The Best 'Cause It Has Skins! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13333425 Kiwi : Skins ..Don't give service, why are folks so caught up in plugin skins? I mean the whole point of any progo is function, I never worry about how the 'Pop-Up' looks, I just want the blasted progo to work...Then the 'Skin' is moot, I mean after clicking...It's working right, & the Eye Candy goes away! Sometimes the eye candy is so intensive the real meaning and function appears lost.

Reminds me of someone who has a car problem, take it to a mechanic to fix & expect a bill before arrival; software/hardware 'fix' -Seems most people think that outa be free, right up front. The dang software does not have to be 'Hollywood' to work, actually It's far more confusing, on the whole.

Cheeze, then there are "Complaints" about security, wonder where that comes from, Plug-In's? It's worth noting that some download sites also compromise....Ah, well ~Why not! It's Candy, right?

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said by salzan See Profile:

said by keith2468 See Profile:

I have suggested to Kaspersky Labs that KAV 6 have "audio skins".

The skins give users their choice of squeals from 5 different species of wild boar (Russian, North American, South American, European, and Indonesian).

;)
That's great!:D

And how about Porky Pig's "th..th..th..that's all folks!" :)
I like that one... I'd put that skin on my KAV in a heartbeat...
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said by keith2468 See Profile:

I have suggested to Kaspersky Labs that KAV 6 have "audio skins".

The skins give users their choice of squeals from 5 different species of wild boar (Russian, North American, South American, European, and Indonesian).

;)
That's great!:D

And how about Porky Pig's "th..th..th..that's all folks!" :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13331976 Wed, 04 May 2005 20:59:33 EDT Re: CNET: Spybot The Best 'Cause It Has Skins! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13331714 keith2468 : Visual skins are so last week.

You all realize, of course, that the main reason that KAV is the premier anti-virus product in the world is the supremely startling and annoying sound it gives off when a virus is detected: the squeal of an angry Russian wild boar.

I have suggested to Kaspersky Labs that KAV 6 have "audio skins".

The skins give users their choice of squeals from 5 different species of wild boar (Russian, North American, South American, European, and Indonesian).

;)
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...and this after purging adware from their downloads, and even hosting that spyware conference. Can't win em all I guess.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13329591 Wed, 04 May 2005 15:59:06 EDT Re: CNET: Spybot The Best 'Cause It Has Skins! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13329545 dp :
said by B See Profile:

No, it didn't.

That quote's a YEAR OLD, based on an old test before either NIS's antispam or MSAS even existed!
ah, I didn't catch the review date: May 14, 2004, yes, a tad old indeed.
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said by jaykaykay See Profile:

Good lord. I am now left wondering what they would think of my skin...old and wrinkled as it is! :D
Don't go spoiling your image!!!!

I think Mr. Vamosi deserves LOTS more razzing than our friends at Spybot - that from a senior editor, no less! ;) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13329438 Wed, 04 May 2005 15:37:19 EDT Re: CNET: Spybot The Best 'Cause It Has Skins! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13329386 B : No, it didn't.

That quote's a YEAR OLD, based on an old test before either NIS's antispam or MSAS even existed!

CNET's had this habit lately of repackaging old product reviews as if they're doing a new comparison. It's pretty misleading.

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"Spybot was the best, finding every possible pest in our tests"
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said by B See Profile:

It's actually a bit funny, since I always thought Spybot had a rather bad interface. MSAS is kinda pretty. What am I saying? :)

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If so... anyone want to guess when the first vulnerability will be found?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13328182 Wed, 04 May 2005 12:52:20 EDT Re: CNET: Spybot The Best 'Cause It Has Skins! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13328014 BillRoland : I think Spybot S&D is a fine product, but I could care less about skins or any of that stuff, I just want it to work. In that regard, I think it doesn't look or work as good as Microsoft AntiSpyware. I DO think it works and looks better than Ad-Aware though.
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said by B See Profile:

The extent of their testing in this case seems to be whether the interface is pretty enough and how much of a drain on system resources is exhibited during scanning.
Well it's obvious from your lack of avatar that you have no style, so it's no surprise you don't give "visual appeal" much weight. :-)

That goes for you too, dave See Profile :-)

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said by dadkins See Profile:

SpyBot has skins?
Jeeezus David were have you been! ADaware has them too, but they're not as pretty. :D
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After all, would Norton and McAfee be so popular if they didn't boast bloated, cutesy colorful GUIs?
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I think this should be a poll. Which Spybot skin do you use? ;)

IMHO MSAS & McAfee Anti-spyware are prettier than any Spybot skin. :hmm:
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Is this a new low? The extent of their testing in this case seems to be whether the interface is pretty enough and how much of a drain on system resources is exhibited during scanning.

Uh, Senior Editor Vamosi, perhaps next time you might wanna include some minor details such as... do the products eliminate spyware??

"Best antispyware bets"
»reviews.cnet.com/4520-9241-62165···netfd.sd

Thank heaven for Mr. Howes.

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