Re: I am not surprised in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r13009507 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:38:25 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:38:25 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13033427 jimbo2150 : Wow, calm down, it was probably a simple spelling error, or
else he was implying that "wall-mart" was putting up a wall between itself and competition.
Lighten up.
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- "Techie" Jim]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13033427 Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:13:18 EDT Why use honda? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13024198 anon : I find it funny the quoted used Honda as an example.

YOU CAN NOT GET A HONDA WITH ALL THE TRIMMINGS OR MADE TO ORDER!

Honda forces items onto the consumer, ex. if you don't want a sunroof with your V6 and air bags TOO BAD. They don't even have packages.

Good for honda bad for the consumer!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13024198 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:27:06 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13023612 anon : Dam that Janet Jackson! She ruined DSL for all of us!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13023612 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:35:58 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13023334 DirtyMic : Yeah try to start a small company making an O/S for home PCs. Then tell me how the whole big business thing is insane.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13023334 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:37:44 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022621 anon : Yes we agree and your reply is well said. Have a great post-Easter Monday. I am signing off for now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022621 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:28:25 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022573 anon : You have made some interesting points in your replies. At least I see how you arrive at some of your viewpoints. This kind of logical debate is much better than throwing the "canned" generic political responses that are tossed around so often.

I do believe your experience in Vietnam has jaded your opinion on the Iraq war. The left wingers have tapped into that anti-Vietnam war fever that still resides in many Americans. Why wasn't this outcry happening when we were bombing the Kosavo ? We still have troops there in Kosavo yet no one is screaming about Clinton's war anymore. What do you want to be that we get a majority of our troops out of Iraq before the rest of our troops leave Kosavo. I don't think that the initial reason for going into Vietnam was a bad one but the war was so poorly executed that it was doomed for failure. I think that we learned many things from Vietnam and some questioning of any President's war policies is healthy for our country.

I am finished posting for the night. It was a good debate although very off topic for BBR. I will come back to read any more replies later. Everybody rest well and have a happy post-Easter Monday.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022573 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:06:05 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022559 tbeckner :
said by History-101:

Yes, I do think we can agree here... It seems like the U.S. political economic policy in going in circles like a dog chasing its tail.
I think we can agree.

US economic policy is in shreds, worldwide. We are actually on the edge of a cliff looking down. Greenspan was right about the BUBBLE (during the Clinton administration) and now he is right about our position in the WORLD ECONOMIC picture, and he is RIGHT that cannot keep running these deficits. At some point, Asia will stop buying our bonds, and then we are really going to be in a bad situation.

Time will tell, but when everyone wakes up to the problem it will likely be too late.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022559 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:00:58 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022532 anon : Yes, I do think we can agree here and don't think that I am entirely on Bush's side either. Unfortunately, I voted Perot in protest to both Dems and Repubs twice myself. Just for the record I even voted for Ralph Nader in protest in 2000 because after Clinton I wanted someone outside the system with integrity. No Nader was not the answer and he would not have worked (although I really like his ideas about energy efficiency and conservation and he sure looks like a genius in hindsight after all the Enron type of scandals) but Bush 1 went against his "no new taxes pledge and he did not finish the job in Iraq". I am with Bush 2 on the war against terror and I defend him in these posts because I get so tired of the excessive harsh the anti-war propaganda.

I don't see the current so called conservative Republicans going out of their way to reel in the spending. It seems like the U.S. political economic policy in going in circles like a dog chasing its tail. But I also don't seeing myself voting anything but Republican until I see someone from another party (not a Perot clone) rising up through the ranks. In California except for a few knucklehead decisions I mostly like Arnold's policies.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022532 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:49:49 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022490 tbeckner :
said by History-101:

Wasn't the Vietnam War started under Democratic President Kennedy?
Actually, President Kennedy was planning on withdrawing his advisers from Vietnam, but then someone assassinated him in November 1963.

LBJ (a Texan, if that makes any difference) expanded the advisers roles and the war and because of his folly he did not run for President in 1968. President Nixon did run on ending the war and won in 1968, but that was pure fools folly, because he expanded the air war and the war went on for another 7 years and finally ended in Saigon on April 30, 1975.

As a side note: The North Vietnamese are great fighters and they even kicked the Chinese's butts in the late 1970's, I believe in 1978. The Chinese lost almost 20,000 troops in just one three day battle in 1978, with the North Vietnamese. You need to remember, the North Vietanmese have been kicking butt in INDOCHINA since the 1940's. If we where fighting the Vietnamese in Iraq, I am afraid we could be getting our butts kicked.

said by History-101:

Sure, you can be against the war in Iraq and yet be for the troops. From my perspective though it does seem contradictory.
Nobody hates war more than soldiers and soldiers hate war that is not justified. There have only been a couple of wars in US history since World War II, that I believe could be justified. Vietnam and Iraq are in that select group of NOT BEING JUSTIFIED. And just so you understand, I am not Anti-War, but then again I am not for War either. Like I said before, nobody hates war more than a Soldier. I support the troops and at the same time I feel sorry for them, and I dislike the administration that put them there, needlessly.

Yet, I am for our involvement in Afghanistan, which I believe was fully justified. The problem I see, we drained resources from Afghanistan to commit troops to an unjustified war in Iraq and that act allowed the terrorists to hide and keep on plotting future troubles for us around the world. Just remember, in an ideal world for the Terrorists, it took 8 years for them to launch the second attack on the twin towers.


said by History-101:

So if you are against the Iraqi War that had the end result of freeing the Iraqi people from twenty plus years of dictatorial tyranny, war with neighboring countries, fear of torture, and mass murder then by all means you can be an American and still have your anti-war views.
If you believe that is the real reason we are in Iraq, then you really have no idea what is up. In fact, if that was the reason, then we would have been and will be in endless wars for the next two centuries. War for us would never end.

I am not swayed by PROPAGANDA from either side, either the LEFT or the RIGHT, and that includes the current and past administration. Freeing the Iraq people is NOT the reason we are there! And finding WMD (Weapons of Mass Destruction) and PAT (Protecting America from Terrorists) are NOT reasons we are there. Go beyond the political agendas of both sides and make your own judgement.

In situations like we have today, there is a lot of FOG. The phrase is called "The FOG of WAR".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022490 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:39:09 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022429 anon : I did not say "you" were stupid. I said that you are entitled to your "stupidity". It is my viewpoint that your statements regarding Bush are stupid and simply wrong. I correct my emotionally charged statement implying something about your I.Q. level by stating that I really cannot know your overall intelligence on other subjects. Neverless, although Bush bashing has become a popular sport among many people, I am offended when I hear the usual cheap shots against our popularly elected U.S. President. I also deserve a say in defending President Bush just as you have the right in this country to verbally bash him.

I am sorry if I offended you personally on a level outside this political topic. That was not my intent and I appreciate that you posted your views. It's just that that the hearing the same left wing crap for several decades and having that politically left mantra historically be wrong so many times has made some of us on the conservative side more than a little pissed off. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022429 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:19:58 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022357 anon : First of all I do commend you for your years of honorary service in the U.S. Military. Many would agree that Vietnam was a ill conceived and poorly orchestrated, and planned war even though the soldiers who served there did very bravely under severe conditions.

I ask these questions... Wasn't the Vietnam War started under Democratic President Kennedy ? Accelerated under liberal Democratic President Johnson ? and ended by Republican President Nixon who ran and won his election on an "end the war platform"?

Next regarding your views. Sure, you can be against the war in Iraq and yet be for the troops. From my perspective though it does seem contradictory. Just for comparison, during the U.S. civil war there were many Americans that we considered patriotic to there cause in being against President Lincoln and the North even if one end result of what Lincoln wanted was to "free the slaves in the southern U.S. states." So if you are against the Iraqi War that had the end result of freeing the Iraqi people from twenty plus years of dictatorial tyranny, war with neighboring countries, fear of torture, and mass murder then by all means you can be an American and still have your anti-war views. I personally really do not understand what you morally stand for regarding your anti-war views, if you are simply confused with leftist media propaganda like so many in this country are, or why anyone would be against freeing the Iraqi people but then again I don't quite understand why Americans supported slavery during the civil war. I guess its all part of being on a different side of history and part of being free to believe anything you want. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022357 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:01:40 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022259 tbeckner :
said by History-101:

You are entitled to your stupidity. We heard the same leftist propaganda B.S. about Reagan in the 1980s..."He's stupid, a simpleton, not compassionate, a right wing fanatic, a cowboy, a fake, a war monger, calling the communist Soviet Union an "Evil Empire" would ruin our fragile relationship with them, he will worsen the Cold War with the Soviet Union by building up our military, telling Gorbachev to "Tear down the East Berlin Wall" was lunacy ...blah...blah...blah!" For you to post the same incorrect, boring, politically leftist mantra we have been hearing for 25 years reveals something about your I.Q. level.
I am unsure who you are talking to, but it isn't me. I am not a PROGRESSIVE/LEFTIST. I am a moderate Republican, a Reagan Republican, a sad supported of Ross, and I am in Mensa, so I am not perfect, but not dumb either.

You might be getting a little too emotional to be responding.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022259 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:42:47 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022222 anon : You are entitled to your stupidity. We heard the same leftist propaganda B.S. about Reagan in the 1980s..."He's stupid, a simpleton, not compassionate, a right wing fanatic, a cowboy, a fake, a war monger, calling the communist Soviet Union an "Evil Empire" would ruin our fragile relationship with them, he will worsen the Cold War with the Soviet Union by building up our military, telling Gorbachev to "Tear down the East Berlin Wall" was lunacy ...blah...blah...blah!" For you to post the same incorrect, boring, politically leftist mantra we have been hearing for 25 years reveals something about your I.Q. level.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022222 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:37:09 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022217 tbeckner :
said by History-101:

Furthermore, this current crop of supposedly Republicans and Bush better cut back the spending, cut taxes, and wake up or the real conservatives along with the sleeping conservative Democrats will join forces and shake up this political charade like Ross Perot did in the 1990's.
I agree completely, if Ross hadn't been such a PANSY, maybe everything would have been different, too bad.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022217 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:36:16 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022194 tbeckner :
said by History-101:

as a patriotic U.S. citizen I had to remind us all of some things regarding this topic.
One doesn't have to remind me about being patriotic, I was a Sergeant in the US Marine Corp from 1968 to 1972 in Vietnam and I volunteered. Patriotism isn't the current argument. In fact, you can be critical of the war in Iraq and still support the troops and be patriotic. The argument should be, was Bush doing his job in 2001, when everyone was warned time after time that something BIG was up and he was taking the longest Presidential vacation in US history. Agreed we can't put all of the blame on Bush, but as President Truman said "The Buck Stops Here!".

What I was mad about, was that someone was blaming Clinton for the final failure of the Bush administration to recognize what was about to happen on 9/11. And if you where to blame Bill for that problem, then you should blame Bush Sr., because there was 8 years between the first attack on the twin towers and the second attack, so should we blame Bush Sr. for the first attack, if we blame Clinton for the second attack.

And one last clink in your argument, I have been a registered Republican since 1980, I would classify myself as a moderate (neither RADICAL RIGHT or LEFT, thank God), and I really believe that Mr Reagan is rolling over in his grave. I don't believe that the RADICAL RIGHT or LEFT are actually SANE people!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022194 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:31:21 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022165 anon : I wouldn't call Clinton's Y2K technology bubble and year 2000 recession a success. It was Clinton's federal policies and his failed oversight and that gave rise to "era of the rich" that created the bubble of corrupt fake wealth companies like ENRON, MCI-WORLDCOM, etc. along with all those thousands internet start-ups that stole peoples investments. Much of that wealth in the late 1990s was built on lies and cooking financial books. Bush inherited Clinton's tech bubble recession and has been trying to put integrity back into the American big business investment since he took office in 2001.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022165 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:24:35 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022105 anon : The BEST ECONOMIC TIMES of the last 50 Years occurred AFTER Reagan and Bush ended the economically burdensome 50 year Cold War with the former Soviet Union, Clinton was able to balance the federal budget by cutting back spending for our post-Cold War military, and after the 1994 elections when the Contract With America REPUBLICANS took control of the U.S. House of Representatives for the first time in more than three decades!

Unfortunately the amnesia inflicted Dems are too busy pandering to their politically correct leftist supporters, jealous America haters, and European-socialists than to understand that Clinton was one of the most economically conservative Democratic Party presidents in the past 100 years.

Furthermore, this current crop of supposedly Republicans and Bush better cut back the spending, cut taxes, and wake up or the real conservatives along with the sleeping conservative Democrats will join forces and shake up this political charade like Ross Perot did in the 1990's. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13022105 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 00:11:35 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13021985 anon : I really didn't want to join the political bickering but as a patriotic U.S. citizen I had to remind us all of some things regarding this topic. The hypocrisy on the left is staggering. Amnesia has been the Dems greatest political play. You seem to be forgetting that the almighty President Clinton was in office when the first WTC bombing took place. Remember? The first group of WTC bombers who drove a rental truck full of explosives into the underground parking lot of the WTC were fanatics cut from the same mold, there were several deaths, many injured, and the then President and the Dems in control of Congress treated it (and still act) like this terrorist act was simply a Federal crime. We had eight years of bombings from basically the same cast of fanatical terrorists as they bombed and attacked U.S. interests all over the world year after year after year... our African embassy bombed, the U.S.S, Cole bombed, the U.S. military and U.N. militia attacked in the "Black Hawk Down" incident, and many more that I could go on for paragraphs about, on and on for eight years straight under Clinton's watch. Then seven months after Bush walking into the White House we had 9/11 and all we heard from the leftists was how terrible Bush has been by going after these terrorists and their supporters, how the Patriot Act has taken away our freedom, the human rights of the terrorists are being violated in GITMO, how bad our military has been acting in Iraq by dropping bombs on Saddam's forces and then later what happened at Abu Ghraib. Oh and of course can we forget all those Hollywood actors and communist party sponsored anti-war marches in the U.S. with the "Bush is Hitler" signs waving in the air. So now its pushing almost four years of hearing this mantra from the "religious left" (they follow their political beliefs like it was a religion) and yet the fact is that we have had very few incidents against the U.S. abroad ( except in the war zones of course) and no major ones here at home. Even after President Bush has been re-elected by a majority of the vote in last years election Amnesia is rampant among the left. However the truth is that most Americans including Dems should thank God that Bush has been running the show for four years and even if you are a leftist atheist communist you still can simply thank both Bush and the U.S. Military for securing your freedom to be blind to the truth !]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13021985 Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:48:32 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13021328 lm5449 :
said by Zverina See Profile:

That's because Bush is a village idiot. :mad:


Not to the majority that voted for him.:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13021328 Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:11:33 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13018974 SpitefulCrow :
said by Transmaster See Profile:

Most all of the crap your hear about Walmart is put out by the Unions would want to organise it.
And you think that letting the poor people working at Walmart shouldn't be allowed to unionize to get better working conditions and pay? :mad:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13018974 Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:14:27 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13018953 PDXPLT :
said by ncredible:

having seen what clinton did to all the businesses in America
Yea, I saw what Clinton did .. he presided over the greatest ecomonic expansion in the history of the country. His advisors, like Bob Rubin, steered us clear of the Asian economic crisis. He eliminated the budget deficit. And lots and lots of people got rich.

From an economic perspective, I really, really miss Clinton.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13018953 Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:10:34 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13017461 Jon Geb : I don't work for a union and I won't step foot in that dollar weakening, job destroying, sprawl producing crap hole.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13017461 Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:22:49 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13016173 jkelley199 : That's right!! Yeah!! Enron and MCI/Worldcom loved him!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13016173 Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:14:25 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13015961 timmylc : danm........is this a politics discussion board?...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13015961 Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:18:33 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13015893 r81984 : " I thank God for Bush" = is what is wrong with america.

If there were not a bunch of religious people in our country Bush would not be president because he just took adavantage of religious people by pretending to be religious.

Church and state need to be separate especially because our country matters should not be based on religion lies.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13015893 Sun, 27 Mar 2005 05:34:55 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13015592 JacksGhost :
said by TScheisskopf See Profile:

Yesh, damn that Clinton for 8 years of a roaring economy, job creation and relative peace. Damn him, damn him, damn him.

:uhh:
Relative peace? How bout a dozen embassies bombed or a relative of mine that Died on the USS Cole! No, you had someone too damn soft to stand up for this nation.

I do NOT like Bush, didn't vote for him. Least he's too stupid to lie under oath.

jAX.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13015592 Sun, 27 Mar 2005 02:37:48 EDT Plus.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13015199 qworster : Just yesterday, a study came out that shows that Walmart's
poor wages cost the Govt. money. It was calculated that the average Walmart with 200 employees cost the community $608,000.00 a year in health costs, welfare, etc.
That's over 3000 dollars per employee!
The average clerk at Walmart makes about 14K a year. That's below the poverty line for a family of three. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13015199 Sun, 27 Mar 2005 01:05:08 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13014416 JoeOnSunset : Actually, states DO have the right to force businesses to do business a certain way and do all the time. The FCC was specifically given the right to overrule state regulations on communication matters. If they weren't, the states rules would remain in place. This has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the states have the "right" to regulate businesses. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13014416 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:53:38 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13014307 Transmaster : Most all of the crap your hear about Walmart is put out by the Unions would want to organise it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13014307 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:37:29 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13014147 mustang03282 :
said by valuepac0 See Profile:

said by SpitefulCrow See Profile:

Wal-mart destroys local business and jobs and creates a bunch of underpaid jobs with no benefits or health insurance while at the same time providing horrible service and poor-quality products to the consumer.
Im sorry but what jobs is wal-mart distroying? As far as im concern, target, wal-mart, kmart.. All pay just above minimum wage. Same with most department/ mall stores: gap, jcpenny, sears, Barnes and noble, borders, tower music... Same with most food establishments. Mc Donald's, subway, Panera, starbucks,..

Basically all these organization pay less than $10 an hour to the majority of their employees. So stop blaming Wal-mart.. the blame can be spread around to just about any organization operating in a strip-mall

do you work for walmart? My wife works at sams club every full time position is being replaced there with part times jobs. When she was hired she was told she could have steady days off now her days off seem to change every week. She paid for her dental plain for over 2 years before she finally got her dental card. If she isnt carefull because of her hire date being late in the year if she isnt carefull and gets dosnt get her vacation request in fast she gets screwed out of her vacation because the last quater of the year is blacked out. She was looking at transferring to wallmart because its alout closer to us. At wallmart the front end supervisers they call cos's dont evem get paid any more then regular cashiers. Now at sams club they are pulling this shit that if sh dont sign up x amount of people for a wallmart credit card he will be fired. She was hired as a cashier not to sign people up for credit. When will big companys understand that customers hate being hounded every time they shop to get a new credit card]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13014147 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:13:41 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13013671 anon : If any of you "arm chair", Monday morning economists would like to investigate things a little further... The economy of the sitting president is due to the previous administration's policies. (i.e. Reagans economy was due to Carter, Clinton's economy was due to Regan/Bush 1, Bush 2's economy is due to Clinton, etc.)

The sooner America get's their collective head out of their keester, and starts thinking for themselves... the better off the USA will be. Don't be a bunch of mindless lemmings... don't jump off that cliff! Be a free thinker, not liberal... just think for yourself. The news media gets paid BIG BUCKS to steer popular opinion... quit letting them do it. Get the facts, research them & make sure they're valid... THEN make an informed decision.
Most people today have a "sound-byte" mentality... that is due to the ever increasing load that we put upon ourselves, no one has time to think... we'd just rather catch it on the 24 hr news channel.

"Duh, CNN/Fox/ABC/NBC,et. al. said it... so it's gotta be true!" Wake up folks!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13013671 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:00:24 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13013504 georgeu : You know I find it amazing that most people don't realize that with economic policy changes it really take closer to 5 to 7 years for them to really run there course. So that being said most presidents inherent their economy (good or bad) from the prior administration. So blaming the current one for just about anything is actually quite pointless. . .:hmm:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13013504 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:34:18 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13012911 valuepac0 :
said by SpitefulCrow See Profile:

Wal-mart destroys local business and jobs and creates a bunch of underpaid jobs with no benefits or health insurance while at the same time providing horrible service and poor-quality products to the consumer.
Im sorry but what jobs is wal-mart distroying? As far as im concern, target, wal-mart, kmart.. All pay just above minimum wage. Same with most department/ mall stores: gap, jcpenny, sears, Barnes and noble, borders, tower music... Same with most food establishments. Mc Donald's, subway, Panera, starbucks,..

Basically all these organization pay less than $10 an hour to the majority of their employees. So stop blaming Wal-mart.. the blame can be spread around to just about any organization operating in a strip-mall
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13012911 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:14:09 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13012678 anon : What a crock of .... The best economic times of the last 50 years were the Clinton years. Big and small business were happy as clams raking in the money.

But you can thank God all you want, although I doubt the big man in interested in our economy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13012678 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:36:53 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13012348 tbeckner :
said by Kompressor See Profile:

Didn't the Twin Towers crash down at the end of his term?
Are you kinding me? I agree that Bush took the largest amount of vacation time in 2001 of any President in US history, but he was in office almost nine months before 9/11.

It's funny how people screw-up history! Maybe they wheren't here or maybe they wheren't paying any attention or maybe they still aren't here, just like BUSH. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13012348 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:47:37 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13012313 tbeckner :
said by Kompressor See Profile:

said by Pz_ See Profile:

said by ncredible:

I thank God for Bush and his common sense.
I'm not a very political person, but I don't think I've ever seen the words bush and common sense in the same sentence.
When have you seen 'Clinton' and 'common sense' in the same sentence?
BUSH is the AntiChrist of Common Sense.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13012313 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:42:07 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13012157 one_bored_si : Welcome to the future of America, and it has already begun. :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13012157 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:16:22 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011808 SpitefulCrow :
said by Kompressor See Profile:

said by TScheisskopf See Profile:

Yesh, damn that Clinton for 8 years of a roaring economy, job creation and relative peace. Damn him, damn him, damn him.

:uhh:
Didn't the Twin Towers crash down at the end of his term?
Bush had already been in office for half a year when that happened. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011808 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:17:11 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011795 J D McDorce : Most of K-Mart's original undoing was due to management issues (not dissimilar to Enron or Adelphia) rather than the result of competitive pressure from Walmart. K-Mart II will continue to be profitable as long are there are buyers for the real estate obtained from the Sears acquisition.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011795 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:15:44 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011768 Blackened :
said by FTCXtreme See Profile:

Hillary LMAO. John Kerry LMAO. John Edwards, is moderate he actualy knows what america needs. Bush= The biggest idiot but Kerry would suck worse. My only option= Nader 04 LMAO. Im thinking next election wil lbe Bob Doles fake ARM 08. JK. Mccain08!!! ;)
You're actually cheering on politicians who plan on screwing you out of your rights and dollars? People try too hard these days to be posterchilds for the phrase "glutton for punishment".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011768 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:11:10 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011354 Samwoo : nope... that happened at the beginning of Bush's term...
that is why he gets the credit for the (mostly defunct) "war on terror" and the Iraqi war (not to be confused with the war on terror)...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011354 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:08:21 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011168 rich_joy : For all of the praise about Wall-Mart's business strategy, it has also been noted that for every job Wall-Mart creates, the community loses 1 1/2 Jobs. The other result is the end of local businesses.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011168 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:38:45 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011157 Kompressor :
said by TScheisskopf See Profile:

Yesh, damn that Clinton for 8 years of a roaring economy, job creation and relative peace. Damn him, damn him, damn him.

:uhh:
Didn't the Twin Towers crash down at the end of his term?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011157 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:37:22 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011128 Kompressor :
said by Pz_ See Profile:

said by ncredible:

I thank God for Bush and his common sense.
I'm not a very political person, but I don't think I've ever seen the words bush and common sense in the same sentence.
When have you seen 'Clinton' and 'common sense' in the same sentence?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13011128 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:33:38 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13010929 packetscan : my sig says it all

--Who do you want to pay off today?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13010929 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:05:11 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13010792 Transmaster : and then K Mart ran into the buzzsaw of Walmart:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13010792 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:43:15 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13010767 TScheisskopf : Yesh, damn that Clinton for 8 years of a roaring economy, job creation and relative peace. Damn him, damn him, damn him.

:uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13010767 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:38:34 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13010651 FTCXtreme : Hillary LMAO. John Kerry LMAO. John Edwards, is moderate he actualy knows what america needs. Bush= The biggest idiot but Kerry would suck worse. My only option= Nader 04 LMAO. Im thinking next election wil lbe Bob Doles fake ARM 08. JK. Mccain08!!! ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13010651 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:20:18 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13010191 ropeguru :
said by Gilitar See Profile:

If the democrats would learn how to nominate a candidate worth a crap maybe we would have another choice.
[sarcasm] You will have the best Democrat to vote for in the next election. Hillary will be running.[/sarcasm]

Why do you think they chose Kerry this time? It was because they new Hillary could not beat Bush, but they still want her up there. So they put up the crappiest possible candidate so that there was no way they could lose with Hillary in the next race.
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If you give the telcos what they want, even when they promise faster speeds and lower prices, it will not work as we have already seen. Healthy competition is what drives down prices and increases service. Each company that competes wants to be the best, so services and products get better. In my case, there is SBC and a local cable company that offer broadband, thats it. They are both at a stalemate with speeds/pricing and not competing much at all. Monopolies could care less (case in point, Micro$oft). Now that their browser is finally threadened, they are JUST NOW makeing a new one. I hope Novell makes good with Linux next year and threatens Windows OS as well.
The point is, the FCC's decission is pretty much ensuring doom for any competion, and it will probably be a long time before most of us see any next-gen broadband.
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If the democrats would learn how to nominate a candidate worth a crap maybe we would have another choice.


we rather have a puppet for the corporate big-wigs as our president. i know, i know, it's all democrats fault.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009766 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:14:13 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009672 P Ness :
said by N3OGH See Profile:

Breakup wall-mart? Under who's authority? For what reason? Wall-mart is not the product of any merger.

Wall-mart is simply the result of a savvy business strategy and excellent distribution systems.

As far as breaking up the telcos, the government did that once all ready, with very mixed (to be charitable) results.
Walmart was a result of alot of preditory pricing..they would come in undercut cost....or even sell below cost..run everyone out and then raise prices to make a margin that was acceptable...

not exactly the best way to conduct business
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www.stopfcc.com I do not think the government needs to restrict free speech especially on a device that has an off knob.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009672 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:59:01 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009557 N3OGH : Breakup wall-mart? Under who's authority? For what reason? Wall-mart is not the product of any merger.

Wall-mart is simply the result of a savvy business strategy and excellent distribution systems.

As far as breaking up the telcos, the government did that once all ready, with very mixed (to be charitable) results.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009557 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:38:52 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009521 Zverina : That's because Bush is a village idiot. :mad:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009521 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:33:51 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009507 Gilitar : I voted for Bush, but I don't like the way things are going with big business in this country. If the democrats would learn how to nominate a candidate worth a crap maybe we would have another choice. It's time for the governement to breakup the following: Wal-mart, telcos, and oil companies. Mergers + big business = consumers lose. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009507 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:31:35 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009401 Pz_ :
said by ncredible:

I thank God for Bush and his common sense.
I'm not a very political person, but I don't think I've ever seen the words bush and common sense in the same sentence.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009401 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:16:14 EDT Re: I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009205 anon : having seen what clinton did to all the businesses in America, I thank God for Bush and his common sense. Yet I don't think Bush had anything to do with this, I think it is right. Why? Simple, the states have no right to force companyies to do business a certain way, the states haveing overspent money are now trying everything they can do to slap us the taxpayers for anything they can, if they had gotten what they wanted we the end customers would have been paying a higher bill.

As for the we own it , ha, 75 years ago maybe, right now today, you are not forced to pay for a phone, your tax money does not go to the bells, stop trying to say we own it. We the tax payers might have helped in the deployment but that does not entitle ownership of the lines. The whole big business thing is so insane, anyone in this country can start any business, as long as the rules are followed. With more rules such as this are in place it is harder for the smaller start ups to get anywhere. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009205 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:41:25 EDT I am not surprised http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009063 Shack : Bush is the most big business President ever, did you expect his FCC to do anything else? Why monoplies are allowed to keep out competition I will never understand, I would included Cable Internet in that as well. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13009063 Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:12:51 EDT